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Old 12-06-2011, 06:01 PM
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Amelinda if you think most of the people on this forum are conservative, you seriously need to take a better look.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:26 PM
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There's a big difference between being a good person, helping the less fortunate out, and advocating the government take money from Group A to give it to Group B, no matter how much Group B needs it. That is simply dividing up stolen property. It's easy to be generous with other peoples' money. Hell, half of Americans don't pay any income taxes. For them to be so willing to support spreading this tax money is easy, as they have no skin in the game.
This is from 2009:

http://taxprof.typepad.com/files/jct...income-tax.pdf

19% have zero income tax liability, 29% get a refundable credit, and 52% pay positive income liability.

81% pay income taxes; it's just that almost 1/3 of the nation doesn't make enough or plans ahead and pays taxes on their pay check instead of waiting till the end of the year.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:29 PM
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it's just that almost 1/3 of the nation doesn't make enough or plans ahead and pays taxes on their pay check instead of waiting till the end of the year.
or that the standard reduction is high enough to reduce their tax rates and they end up getting money back (me)
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:44 PM
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Amelinda, I just want you to know that even though you're a filthy socialist, we can still be friends <3.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:30 PM
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Put it in off topic you faggots
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:39 PM
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This is from 2009:

http://taxprof.typepad.com/files/jct...income-tax.pdf

19% have zero income tax liability, 29% get a refundable credit, and 52% pay positive income liability.

81% pay income taxes; it's just that almost 1/3 of the nation doesn't make enough or plans ahead and pays taxes on their pay check instead of waiting till the end of the year.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/econom...ent/50676912/1

"According to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center in Washington, D.C., 46% of tax filers will owe no federal income tax this year. But when you figure in payroll taxes — such as those for Social Security, Medicare and unemployment — more than 80% of tax filers pay some kind of federal tax."

Note that in my post, I had specifically said income tax. The vast majority of workers (they claim 80%) pay some kind of tax like social security, medicare, etc. Not to mention all the taxes placed on payroll that business pay, most of which would end up going to the employee. But for income tax, 46% pay nothing. That doesn't mean they pay on the paycheck and then don't have to pay at the end of the year. It means their total federal income tax liability is 0.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:43 PM
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There's a big difference between being a good person, helping the less fortunate out, and advocating the government take money from Group A to give it to Group B, no matter how much Group B needs it. That is simply dividing up stolen property. It's easy to be generous with other peoples' money. Hell, half of Americans don't pay any income taxes. For them to be so willing to support spreading this tax money is easy, as they have no skin in the game.
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Note that in my post, I had specifically said income tax. The vast majority of workers (they claim 80%) pay some kind of tax like social security, medicare, etc.
So what was the point of your post?
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:52 PM
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So what was the point of your post?
You do realize the difference of an income tax and a social security or medicare tax, right? In theory, the latter 2 are paid on the understanding that you will reap the benefits of that money in the future. The former is used for all the Robin Hood programs.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:57 PM
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You do realize the difference of an income tax and a social security or medicare tax, right? In theory, the latter 2 are paid on the understanding that you will reap the benefits of that money in the future. The former is used for all the Robin Hood programs.
wait, so i'll be able to draw social security in 40+years?
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:05 PM
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where do I go for the free lunch?
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