PoP starting to dwindle...hovering close to 300 now

[Ziggy]

No one who plays this game is a 'casual', if you are here you have played this game for years. This server has a higher constant player population than ANY OTHER EMULATED PVP SERVER EVER AT ANY TIME. It is the ONLY emu PvP server to ever have real pve.

quit the QQ, hardcore niche confirmed

[oldfish]

I think the problem is people wanted something to deter people from pvping (xp loss) and its working. It probably also making the server lose numbers. Its like a blue server mainly with an extra grind factor.

So how i see it, im asking myself if its worth grinding to 50, with not much pvp on the way top, with a server thats going to hover in pop at 150-300 if it doesnt get any worse than it is right now.

And it will probably get worse once twinks start being made and any new blood (even people who played since launch that are going to start seeing poopsocker twinks) to the server discouraged from pvping and pursuing a character by xp loss.

I may be wrong, but thats how i see it.

[Ziggy]

Originally Posted by oldfish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the problem is people wanted something to deter people from pvping (xp loss) and its working. It probably also making the server lose numbers. Its like a blue server mainly with an extra grind factor.

So how i see it, im asking myself if its worth grinding to 50, with not much pvp on the way top, with a server thats going to hover in pop at 150-300 if it doesnt get any worse than it is right now.

And it will probably get worse once twinks start being made and any new blood (even people who played since launch that are going to start seeing poopsocker twinks) to the server discouraged from pvping and pursuing a character by xp loss.

I may be wrong, but thats how i see it.

if you aren't willing to take the risk then you don't reap the rewards, if you want pvp you can find it. but thats besides the point, this game has ALWAYS been hard and if you are going to have a server like this you should do it right. this thread just proves how narrow this game's niche is.

[oldfish]

Originally Posted by Ziggy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you aren't willing to take the risk then you don't reap the rewards, if you want pvp you can find it. but thats besides the point, this game has ALWAYS been hard and if you are going to have a server like this you should do it right. this thread just proves how narrow this game's niche is.

Right but with odds being most of the times not in your favor if you are not in a big guild, risk = xp loss most of the times. Even me who had long drawn out pvp sessions on rallos is not doing them, because i know most of the times the odds are against me and will result in xp loss. I could get lucky and play well and get one guy and scoot, but thats not gonna happen most of the times. So i find myself thinking "oh ill just get to 19, then ill pvp". "Oh just get to 24, then ill pvp more".

You can say its my fault im not going out and pvping but i honestly find PVE a boring experience that ive done on blue already and that im only repeating because there is a pvp component attached to it. Since im always postponing pvp because of the extra grind in pve i dread, im not pvping. Which means im getting bored, which gets me closer to playing casual, which gets me closer to quit.

The game is already hard as it is, no need to add to it, especially when the brunt of the extra hardness is put on people who are more likely to quit.

[Lovely]

Give them global OOC

[Mabash]

Need to have global OOC so the blues can have a 911 channel to report when they're getting plowed so they can call for blackup.

[Palemoon]

No global OOC, I'm enjoying the world feeling like a huge place.

[Rust1d?]

IMO...

1) Grind is way too much.Killing the same crap over and over again for 8 hours straight to gain a level gets boring. Exp needs to be at a minimum, double what it is now. You say people got to 50 already, look how they got there.

2) I thought low level PVP would be interesting. It is not. 99% of the time when I engaged someone in pvp, they zone hop till they are 5%, log, then bitch to my ex-guild leaders that I was PKing them when in fact they started it.

3) As games like TOR and GW2 come one, the population will only get worse.

[Doodle]

Originally Posted by Rust1d? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IMO...

1) Grind is way too much.Killing the same crap over and over again for 8 hours straight to gain a level gets boring. Exp needs to be at a minimum, double what it is now. You say people got to 50 already, look how they got there.

2) I thought low level PVP would be interesting. It is not. 99% of the time when I engaged someone in pvp, they zone hop till they are 5%, log, then bitch to my ex-guild leaders that I was PKing them when in fact they started it.

3) As games like TOR and GW2 come one, the population will only get worse.

Will you please shut up about the grind. Jesus, they won't fix it because everyone else, like myself, is enjoying the classic aspect. If you want to get level 50 in a day, go play World of Warcraft.

If you don't find low level PVP interesting, don't do it. You're virtually complaining about an issue with no solution to accompany it that'd make us better off.

[Muaar]

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