How are Bards in the DPS department?

[pickled_heretic]

Here's the REAL story of the former AE mez...
In beta it was super overpowered. It could lock down an entire zone. This caused all bard mez songs to have a second resist check added. Essentially, the song could land but not affect the creature. This led to the supremacy of Enchanters in crowd controlling (and monks in pulling, as a bard's only tool for controlling a lull failure was removed).

Bards complained bitterly about this state of affairs, while Verant denied there was any problem. This came to a head in a famous (among bards at least) episode where a dev came to watch a demonstration in the Qeynos newbie yard as a high level bard attempted to mez the level 1 snakes, only to have a near 100% resist rate.

Eventually the second resist check was removed, and this song changed to single target.

Thank you for posting this, Falkun. Sounds like the devs need to add a 2nd resist check, to make the song useless (e.g. classic). That sounds like a great way to fix it. This song was a non-factor during classic as it should be here.

We currently have the overpowered beta version. We should be using the version with the 2nd resist check, and we should be using it for the duration of this server's existence.

[Diggles]

A bards job is not that he deals 9001 DPS, his job its to make others deal 9002

[Szeth]

Pickled, will you pay 10k for a green mob ss in karnors? Or were you just blowing smoke up our asses?

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Szeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pickled, will you pay 10k for a green mob ss in karnors?

wait, what? where did i say i was paying 10k for anything?

[Rusl]

No szeth that's my plat gtfo

[Szeth]

Fine, 1k. And the plat goes to Rusl. I just need vindication.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Szeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also calling shenanigans on 135 dps without a parse. I'm pretty sure Gmal is just trolling in any case. Especially since he said "most" monks with sky fists, and there aren't any monks w/ sky fists doing 135 dps.(without innerflame over an 18 second period)

+1 (or +1,000,000 since we are inflating numbers)

[Splorf22]

We need mardur on here, I remember he claimed he soloed a DB mob in 10 seconds with the Mighty Strike discipline.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you for posting this, Falkun. Sounds like the devs need to add a 2nd resist check, to make the song useless (e.g. classic). That sounds like a great way to fix it. This song was a non-factor during classic as it should be here.

We currently have the overpowered beta version. We should be using the version with the 2nd resist check, and we should be using it for the duration of this server's existence.

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

neat, one random comment disproves the multiple cross-referenced comments

Listen to your own words if you want to crusade, because the multiple posts I found determined that this song did in fact work and was not, as you say, "useless".

Finally, Bug reports are that way ---->
Rants & Flames (for your anti-bard hatred crusading) are this way ----->

Take your unproductive trolling and inaccuracies out of server chat.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Listen to your own words if you want to crusade, because the multiple posts I found determined that this song did in fact work and was not, as you say, "useless".

Do you think this song was highly resisted during classic in its aoe state or not? If not, why did you post evidence showing the contrary?

Take your unproductive trolling and inaccuracies out of server chat.

I swear, people get accused of trolling for anything these days. My original post here was essentially "bard dps is pretty damn good due to charming, but why would you care since you are the best CCer in the game due to an unresolved bug?" Not off topic at all. I am merely defending myself now