More proof that server is going to hell

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This person is in TR, btw. The continual denial and attacks on Uthgaard coupled with the cries of innocent are only coming from TR members. Interesting, I wonder if there is a bias.

Also, learn the difference between their and there.

Then let me fix that. I'm not in TR, never have been, and never will be. I have a lot more friends in TMO than TR, and honestly, don't like most TR members I run across in-game. That being said, the reason for Project 1999's success is the level of professionalism brought to it by Nilbog. He is the one and only difference between P99 and EQClassic, or any of the other failed emulated attempts. The server was a success before Uthgaard, and it's still a success after him. He had a distorted image of his own station.

If you're an adult, you've interacted with people like this. People that are hard-working and well-intentioned, but ultimately undone by their ego and lack of respect. Ego is the important thing here. Uth clearly felt he didn't get enough credit from Nilbog and Rogean. He felt undermined. He felt that minimal contributors like Xzerion were afforded equal status, and that bothered him. So what's the biggest wave Uth could possibly make? How does he assert himself as the third leg of a Nilbog-Rogean tripod? By taking down another Dev who happens to be an officer/leader of the #1 raiding guild on the server. That's the big-dick move. It makes him top dog. But he ran into a couple problems. #1, his evidence was CLEARLY insufficient. He had a developer looking into some basic facts of a yet-to-be released raid zone. Not exactly damning. And he had some info from TR's site that suggested they had created an exact-replica of P99's VP. Except Nilbog has the database secured and KNOWS that not even Xzerion could access that information -- meaning the claim was essentially braggadocio. TR's info was garden variety fact collection. The fact that they nerded-up their own server for practice is embarrassing, but not illegal. Is it possible that Xzerion was abusing his position? Sure. It's been a source of speculation for years. But there still isn't any evidence, and given his level of access, it wouldn't be as easy for him to gain an unfair advantage as most seem to believe.

Uth did a lot of good for this server, but he was all wrong on this. It's reverse scientific method. He made his conclusion, then found facts to fit the narrative. He's made posts in the past asking for Xz to choose between GL and Dev status -- it was clearly something that bothered him. He presented the information in a highly inappropriate manner, was disrespectful to his superiors, and eventually leaked information that harmed the server in order to exact his own punishment on Xzerion, regardless of Nilbog and Rogean's opinions. It was poor form. I hope bridges can eventually be rebuilt, because there's no question Uthgaard was a net-positive for the server. He was all wrong on this, though, and he owes the entire staff -- Xzerion most of all -- a big apology.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He had a developer looking into some basic facts of a yet-to-be released raid zone.

The developer who happens to be guild leader of the guild that is presumed to be the ones in that raid zone first, who would stand to benefit most from their guild leader knowing how VP works on P99 (since damage formulas, AC, resists, etc, are all 'approximated' from Live and therefore the guides that already exist out on the Internet.) Perception is 90% of reality. Why not send a different developer to do that checking to avoid the potential drama?

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it possible that Xzerion was abusing his position? Sure. It's been a source of speculation for years. But there still isn't any evidence, and given his level of access, it wouldn't be as easy for him to gain an unfair advantage as most seem to believe.

I thought the entire point of Uthgaard's accusations was that Xzerion was on the version of the P99 Veeshan's Peak, after not having done any dev work in a year, running GM commands to glean information from that zone -- information that could be used to fine-tune TR's version of the VP server they are using "to practice" on?

Is there absolute proof that those were the intentions, or that the communication of that data back to whoever's managing the DB for the "practice" server ever took place? No, of course not. That is the "beauty" of it... the only people who can prove it are the ones allegedly doing it, if that was in fact what was taking place -- and they would know that. So all Uthgaard is left with is speculation, and then there's the perception of what's going on behind the scenes that the rest of us are considering 90% reality, because... come on... can anyone make this look more suspicious if they actually tried?

You got a dev who also has a play character. Fine.

That character also happens to be guild leader of a guild. Eh, okay.

That guild also happens to be the guild that gets most of the raid targets on the server. Come on now.

The dev was poking around in VP and there is news of a "guild practice VP server" going up for that guild. Seriously?!?!?

Whatever the true story is... someone has GOT to understand how this looks to the rest of the server.

[Deuces]

So glad i donated two weeks ago.

[mitic]

86.09[23:50] <Uthgaard> this server went to shit the month i backed off. you lost a lot of players until i came back and started handling issues

well, is there anything else to say about this person?

whats his toons/guilds name? i want to know it now

[midgetzebra]

lol.. jesus christ just shut it down then

[Supreme]

All of this drama is because of 1 GM.

It isnt because of Xzerion,Nilbog or Rogean. Xzerion has been here from the start and the issue of "trust" is not going to be questioned. Xzerion will always have the benefit of the doubt because he has been a contributing member of the project since before it was released.

Now i do not like Xzerion (my reasons are other) but Uthgaard is and has always been OVER THE LINE. Never ,on live or a emu, have I seen so much disrespect/insubordination coming from a subordinate GM/Dev as i have seen with Uthgaard. He seemed to write his own policy on how to handle things then wonders why he catches feedback from the Server Admins?

I say good riddance. In time your drama will fade and people will either decide to keep playing or not. Regardless of what people are "suspected" of doing.

[Glitch]

You know, I'm seeing a lot of posts about people wanting to quit p99 because of cheating and GM corruption. It actually makes me want to come back and play. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Waedawen]

All the Uthgaard fanboys didn't even play server when he wasn't a guide.

There is so many bullshit topics going around right now and most of them involve one key thing: him. Ever since he joined the team this whole "lawbringer" attitude has done nothing but agitate unhealthy competition between guilds and unhealthy resentment towards "the authority" which, in my mind, no doubt led to an increase in SEQ etc.
They want to down the Target as fast as they can so they do not have to deal with any bullshit that Uthgaard and his new self-imposed policy has to bring.

There used to be at least 80 people in Fear or Hate on any given night, back in the day, and you'd only hear about it if something -truly- hilarious went down. Now, any time TR and TMO are in the same Zone together, somebody's cheating and somebody's in the wrong.

Healthy competition is replaced by unhealthy competition (cheating) on the development of unnecessary regulation. Nilbog has a point with his, "there are no Nilbog Hate Threads" statement because a laissez-faire policy on end-game raiding is, QUITE OBVIOUSLY, the correct route. Obviously, as Nilbog said 'security cameras' are necessary but an 'armed guard' would do everything but promote fair play.

It was much better without him, it will be much better without him.

[nalkin]

Why is it even allowed for a developer to be a guild leader? Should be only one or the other... not both.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by nalkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is it even allowed for a developer to be a guild leader? Should be only one or the other... not both.

Because obviously his contributions are valued, but he wants to play. If he's removed from Dev duty, the whole server loses out on his work and you pile more onto the plates of other Devs. But from everything I can tell, his status as guildleader is completely overblown. He was instrumental in the forming of IB but if you speak to any TR member about him, he never leads raids and his attendance is pretty low. A lot of members don't even know him. He's basically an honorary officer -- he's not the lead man like Bumamgar was in WI.