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Old 08-28-2011, 08:24 PM
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Some people downplay some of the shit you can do with MQ. Whenever I've used it (on live and other emu servers) it was for the basic, non-game breaking functions. However some of the plugins out there specifically target loopholes in code. For example, there was a plugin that allowed you to type a suicide command. After using it and accepting a rez, you'd gain about 20-30 levels. This worked on all emu servers. However I assume someone instantly jumping ahead that many levels is pretty easy to spot in logs.
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Old 08-28-2011, 08:30 PM
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All "cheating" is not the same...

ShowEQ - You wont get caught
myShowEQ - You get this suspension
MQ - You get this suspension

ShowEQ is basically showing you maps.

MQ is basically full blow cheating.

You get smacked the same way for full blown cheating as seeing maps if you are a bad cheater.

You completely continue with an EXP bonus if you are a smart cheater.

I think the MQ folks deserve a bigger slap than the ShowEQ folks. One just looks, the other sees and affects. They are big differences, and one of them wont suffer any punishment ever.
Cheating is cheating; if you can't play by the rules then don't play at all. The second you start classifying them by severity people will use the ones with small punishments until they get caught.

The game is 12 years old, and anyone who feels the need to cheat has an extremely pathetic superiority complex. I've never understood the mindset of people who cheat at games. If you're not good at something move on and find something else. I had imagined the majority of the people playing on P1999 were for nostalgia and fun; it's funny to see how others twist it.

Regardless of the excuse or the spin people put on it, I smile every time I think of all the clowns who got caught. I don't care if you're a person who used it once to check a rare spawn or used it every day -- you're all sons of bitches.
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Old 08-28-2011, 08:42 PM
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Cheating is cheating; if you can't play by the rules then don't play at all. The second you start classifying them by severity people will use the ones with small punishments until they get caught.

The game is 12 years old, and anyone who feels the need to cheat has an extremely pathetic superiority complex. I've never understood the mindset of people who cheat at games. If you're not good at something move on and find something else. I had imagined the majority of the people playing on P1999 were for nostalgia and fun; it's funny to see how others twist it.

Regardless of the excuse or the spin people put on it, I smile every time I think of all the clowns who got caught. I don't care if you're a person who used it once to check a rare spawn or used it every day -- you're all sons of bitches.
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Old 08-28-2011, 08:57 PM
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Read that in the "Older George Carlin" voice of the late 80s/ early 90s. It just fits perfectly.

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Cheating is cheating; if you can't play by the rules then don't play at all. The second you start classifying them by severity people will use the ones with small punishments until they get caught.

The game is 12 years old, and anyone who feels the need to cheat has an extremely pathetic superiority complex. I've never understood the mindset of people who cheat at games. If you're not good at something move on and find something else. I had imagined the majority of the people playing on P1999 were for nostalgia and fun; it's funny to see how others twist it.

Regardless of the excuse or the spin people put on it, I smile every time I think of all the clowns who got caught. I don't care if you're a person who used it once to check a rare spawn or used it every day -- you're all sons of bitches.
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Old 08-28-2011, 09:45 PM
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wow you guys sure take your pixels seriously
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:45 PM
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Quoted for truth. It's a 12 year old game on an emulated server and it is taken less seriously by most than it used to be. Jobs, kids and other RL things are more important now so using cheats don't carry the same weight to some as they would have when the game was live.

As far as the olympic steroids statement this is a great analogy. People tend to assume the only "cheaters" are the ones who get caught, when in reality they were just the ones that failed at hiding it. Steroids are far more widely used than most people think it's just that some coaches know better ways of hiding it than others. Just as on this server there were far more people cheating than people ever realized.

And while we're on steroids as an analogy let's remember that they're performance enhancing drugs. They do not give you any new talents you didn't possess beforehand, they enhance the ones that you already possess. Similar to cheats in this game. They don't make you a good player, they just make doing the things you're already doing easier. If you suck at EQ then you're still going to suck with hacks because you won't even know how to utilize them.

As far as exploits in game, I have to disagree. Anyone could have found MQ2 within 10 minutes of searching so if you're on the internet then you did have access to the same cheats as others. The in game exploits are potentially more damaging to the server and just because "more" people have access to them doesn't make them any "fairer". I mean what you fear more from a server health point of view? A group of people running around EC with full time ultravision and enduring breath? Or the guy sitting in the corner of the tunnel duping plat?

Whether or not you used MQ, Showeq or were exploiting bugs in the game, it's all cheating and there are different levels of it.
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:47 PM
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wow you guys sure take your pixels seriously
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Old 08-29-2011, 12:03 AM
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Fuck you.
Wait.. so are you mad about EQ or the steroids? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-29-2011, 12:22 AM
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Does anyone care...You cheated at a damm video game, what else did you cheated at in life?
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Old 08-29-2011, 12:29 AM
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Cheater actually has some nice points here. If you can man up and admit something, it's better than if you go on a total rampage about it, especially given the punishment they gave out.

I applaud people like you.
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