Discussion: Loot and Scoot (LnS)

[lethdar]

Again, I prefer non GM enforced LNS, however I am quite sure considering this has happened in pretty much every emu pvp server once the tears hit a critical mass that there will eventually be a rule implemented to protect the babies.

The important thing is that there be crystal clear rules once the server goes live. If LnS is not GM enforced then there shouldn't ever be GMs suspending someone for jerking off to an 8 hour corpse camp. If LnS is player enforced then there needs to be clear that GMs wont interfere no matter how dickish a player is in their obeying of them.

[Humerox]

Player-enforced LNS promotes PNP. "May I please LNS, sir?" goes a hell of a lot further than " You piece of %^%, I'm reporting your #@@."

If anyone wants an LNS and does anything other than PNP...they deserve what they get.

GM's will be banning, suspending and wasting a hell of a lot of time enforcing stuff that's better left to the players, and the whiny-#@@ biznatches that can't handle a little grief don't need to be playing PvP, anyway. Besides, if it was team-based, they might be able to call a few people in to help. (hadda throw it in.)

[Nirgon]

People will complain about it enforced or not, better to ignore it. There's more important things to do.

Further, I'd consider your ruleset of what involves being the fucktard police and what involves maintaining things that are viable.

[Yukahwa]

Obviously the problem can be handled without GM intervention. Anyone getting sat on can just log out for a while and grab his corpse later.. problem solved. I can imagine cases where more than that might be necessary, so a rule wouldn't be a bad idea IMO. LNS just allows the dominated player to accept their loss and go find another place to hunt or be killed.

[Buhbuh]

LnS is maybe 0.1% of the time a GM related/ needed issue. Players have it covered.

[Yukahwa]

Thats why its okay to have rules discouraging it further so that those that defy the social norm can be punished in whatever way. Almost all of the time..like you said, it won't be any sort of issue.

[Harrison]

"It isn't even an issue 99% of the time!"

*rule enforcing LnS discussed as a possibility*

"RAAAAGE OMG THATS SO DUMB IT WILL FILL UP PETITIONS"

You guys are fucking geniuses.

[beentheredonethat]

what is LNS and PNP? I've played eq years ago, so don't remember most of the terms anymore.

[Humerox]

loot and scoot
play nice policy

[beentheredonethat]

thanks, i know what acronyms stand for (i saw it in the thread). I just don't know what it means.

pnp I'm assuming an honor code for "dont intentionally piss people off". but I have no idea what lns is.