Another reason entitlements need to go bye-bye

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That might bother me if you hadn't already established yourself as a complete fucking moronic fail-troll.

Are you angered, though?

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you angered, though?

Not really, trolling is a lost art now days it seems.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're setting up a ridiculous straw man. Nobody in this thread has labeled Americans as the most ingenious people on the planet -- not by a long shot. Personally, I said the US is the wealthiest and most powerful nation on the planet. Making any judgment about the quality of the citizenry is external to that fact.

But Norway's success as a nation of 5,000,000 is only slightly more relevant than the successes of Israeli kibbutzim when discussing communism. Scale means everything.

I actually said we weren't the most ingenuous of peoples, which was probably just Freudian.

So the excuse again is the size of our nation? How is that acceptable to you? Why is it acceptable to you? I think it's a cop-out and it's just easier than being honest and admitting we're scared and we don't want to admit that policies other than the ones we've come to know and love are in fact superior. We don't want to do the hard things, so we just call them impossible. We're no longer the wealthiest, most powerful nation in the world, but at least we're still making a strong showing in the greed and cowardice races, thanks to folks like you.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I actually said we weren't the most ingenuous of peoples, which was probably just Freudian.

So the excuse again is the size of our nation? How is that acceptable to you? Why is it acceptable to you? I think it's a cop-out and it's just easier than being honest and admitting we're scared and we don't want to admit that policies other than the ones we've come to know and love are in fact superior. We don't want to do the hard things, so we just call them impossible. We're no longer the wealthiest, most powerful nation in the world, but at least we're still making a strong showing in the greed and cowardice races, thanks to folks like you.

Oh no you di'n't. Am I supposed to be offended? I'm not. You're naive. And, worse, ignorant of what goes into government if you believe that the difference between the average quality of life in Norway and the US is attributable to "policies". There is no policy that turns West Baltimore into Norway. Norway didn't just stumble onto the secret to happiness, which every other nation in the world is conveniently ignoring. Norway is a disproportionately wealthy and minuscule nation that represents less than 1/10 of a percentage of the world population and has essentially no role in foreign policy. It's a small and skewed minority.

And you continue to state that "we" -- which I assume means America -- are not the wealthiest or most powerful nation in the world. That is demonstrably incorrect.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no policy that turns West Baltimore into Norway.

That's racist.

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Norway didn't just stumble onto the secret to happiness, which every other nation in the world is conveniently ignoring.

Well I sure do wonder why Norway and Baltimore are so different. Gee. Did Baltimore stumble upon the secret to misery or something?

In any event, I think it'd be a great exercise for you to list all the other nations with higher quality of life than the U.S. and then you can make excuses for why each one does a better job than us. I'll give you a day or two because I know all that justification can be time-consuming.

[Slathar]

ITT: priveleged white males arguing over which priveleged white male should be in charge

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's racist.



Well I sure do wonder why Norway and Baltimore are so different. Gee. Did Baltimore stumble upon the secret to misery or something?

In any event, I think it'd be a great exercise for you to list all the other nations with higher quality of life than the U.S. and then you can make excuses for why each one does a better job than us. I'll give you a day or two because I know all that justification can be time-consuming.

It's got nothing to do with race. It's got to do with socio-economics and history. Do you think Connecticut is wealthy and Louisiana is poor because of US policy?

And I've already posted this. If you're going by the Human Development Index, there are only 3 nations above the US. Those 3 combined (Norway, Australia, New Zealand) have a smaller population than California.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's got nothing to do with race. It's got to do with socio-economics and history. Do you think Connecticut is wealthy and Louisiana is poor because of US policy?

Uh, yes? Or did we sell Connecticut to Canada while I wasn't paying attention or something? Anyway, you fucking dipshit, we're talking the nation as a whole compared to other nations, as wholes. We're not comparing Quebec and New Mexico, because that is really a less meaningful endeavor than seeing how long I can play with my balls.

Also, the racism comment was an obvious joke, you dumb fuck.

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I've already posted this. If you're going by the Human Development Index, there are only 3 nations above the US. Those 3 combined (Norway, Australia, New Zealand) have a smaller population than California.

Flawed methodology puts us fourth, adjusted for inequality their own numbers drop us to twelfth. Imagine that, we have the capability, and should by all rights be the number four but due to the greed of one percent of us we're languishing in twelfth, at best. Other reports have us as low as 31st.

All that really matters is that we aren't first, and there's no excuse for it. Oh, except the "we're too massive a country to live as well as these micro-nations" excuse which I've already explained is nothing but fear fucking with you, and you're letting it because I guess you're just a pretty huge pussy. Like Tralina's but probably less hairy.

[Barkingturtle]

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!

[Tiggles]

I like Ron Paula and his economic policies but I can't stand his religious whackjob portion.