Scout Quest is Going Away (Woot)

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, I follow your logic now (that no guilds thing threw me) ... but I still think your examples are apples and oranges, or at least apples and pears. Waiting in line for the most popular mob ... that a player could solo ... is not the same thing as waiting in line to get loot that requires a raid force all but handed to you.

Want to convince me otherwise? Go solo the Scout encounter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being able to solo that encounter first few months after launch on live would be as difficult as soloing scout 3 years into velious on p99.

[shovelquest]

wait what's different between scout and that sewer thing!

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To me scout has had an amazing community almost festival vibe. A bit like the first fabled event or hanging out at the ldon camps. It’s an amazing instance of people working together for mutual benefit, breaks down othering and out grouping and is such a good jumping board for new friendships and adventure. Plus it really rocks when you know someone has been rolling for ages and they finally get to hand in their tools!

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Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wait what's different between scout and that sewer thing!

Nothing at all, cabilis sewer club is now illegal.

same as the HS drusilla club, totally illegal.

8th ring roll? straight to jail!

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[WarpathEQ]

Intersting take that classic is siphoning everyone into silos via guild tags and incentivizing people to not interact outside of their guild. That seems to have worked really well on P99 to create a toxic culture.

Maybe that was your classic experience but it certainly wasn't everyones. I completed the entire bard epic minus phinny back on classic live without ever guild tagging and guess what, for the hardest part, I showed up and rolled over and over with people all accross the server guild tagged or not [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Open server encounters were commonplace back then in my experience.

Classic was always about collaborating with other players to get things done, not by joining a guild and following a system controlled by a few people, generally for their own gain. Really in my view point there was only one guild that mattered on each server, one guild that was unlocking the newest hardest content that tended to work for themselves and keep away from others. Otherwise it was very much open world collaboration. A guild was basically just a way to get around the limit of how many people you could /friend.

But by all means keep advocating for more silos, more us vs. them, more toxic behavior. Clearly we haven't cultivated enough of that viewpoint on P99.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

8th ring roll? straight to jail!

You have failed at reading comprehension!

My entire argument in this thread is that Scout should require you to bring your own force ... like the ring war (or any other Velious raid quests: Garzicor, HoT armor, etc.) ... which is sort of the opposite of wanting to get rid of it.

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I completed the entire bard epic minus phinny back on classic live without ever guild tagging and guess what, for the hardest part, I showed up and rolled over and over with people all accross the server guild tagged or not [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Open server encounters were commonplace back then in my experience.

Open raids did happen in the classic era, and I've presented classic evidence of as much in many arguments here. Hell, while it was in Luclin, not classic, I even led an open Vox raid on Bristlebane, and It was one of my fondest live memories.

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But ... open raids only were on old content. When you open-raided Vox the server was in Velious and she was two years old: you weren't getting the best raid-level loot from the latest expansion.

I repeat: no one was getting Velious raid-level loot without a guild in classic.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But ... open raids only were on old content. When you open-raided Vox the server was in Velious and she was two years old: you weren't getting the best raid-level loot from the latest expansion.

I repeat: no one was getting Velious raid-level loot without a guild in classic.

Remind me...how old is velious in our current server progression?

[cd288]

Lol this is such a cliche nit picky Loramin argument it's cracking me up. No one gives a shit. Everyone enjoys coming together as a community to kill things during the scout roll...but yeah we should force everyone to join Riot to get Scout lolololol

[realsubtle]

Just found proof that Everquest did not actually exist in Classic. Have petitioned the p99 staff to remove all content immediately or they will face full censure and sanction from the League of Pedantic Timewasters.

[Ekco]

the amount of people just using EQ as a chatroom was what made the world feel alive in classic also

Gfay had about 50+ people who didn't give a single fuck about leveling when i was playing on Fennin ro in 99

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the amount of people just using EQ as a chatroom was what made the world feel alive in classic also

Gfay had about 50+ people who didn't give a single fuck about leveling when i was playing on Fennin ro in 99

FQ is EQ if it was a mud and you only hung out in Gfay.