Level 60 v Level 60 - no gear

[Kruel]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Starting naked, no spells memmed seems fair - like a character just died and spawned in some gladiatorial hell.

NAH THERE WOULD BE NO WAY TO GET A SINGLE SPELL MEMD.

AS SOON AS YOU SIT A PUNCH WOULD HIT

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Kruel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NAH THERE WOULD BE NO WAY TO GET A SINGLE SPELL MEMD.

AS SOON AS YOU SIT A PUNCH WOULD HIT

As all other casters happen to have access to a racial hide this issue is only really a problem for shaman, which can land a slam to buy time to mem invis. Also /boo (invis page #) mouseclick invis icon and alt 1 (to quickly mem a low level invis spell) takes less than the 3.6 seconds or whatever naked fist timer is.

[cd288]

EverQuest version of PUBG

[Vexenu]

This is actually a very interesting hypothetical. You could make arguments for basically all of the caster/priest classes + Bard, since they often counter each other in rock/paper/scissors fashion. If this were a bracket style tournament, I think the winner would likely be decided by an equal combination of player skill and favorable class matchups, because no single class can reliably beat every other class.

I would really like to see this organized as an actual tournament. I would bet on a Wiz, a Necro, or a very, very talented and patient Bard to win. Epic Mage could also do very well depending on specific matchups and how well the pet can resist player CC.

[Naxy]

In PvP does any mezz or charm actually work on a lvl 60 character? In PvE a bard’s charm and mezz are level restricted.

[Kruel]

Originally Posted by Naxy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In PvP does any mezz or charm actually work on a lvl 60 character? In PvE a bard’s charm and mezz are level restricted.

in the arena the mez does land but it only last for a small time. With pets being allowed a naked wizard would have a problem with a necro. Wizard would of course try to root the pet immediately. As a necro i would mem both dispells and as soon as i saw a root graphics going off cast dispell on my pet. Wizard will start running, then just use root on wizard. Roots seem to land just fine on lvl 60s but just dont last long.

No pets and the wizard would absolutely dominate.

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Kruel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a necro i would mem both dispells and as soon as i saw a root graphics going off cast dispell on my pet. Wizard will start running, then just use root on wizard. Roots seem to land just fine on lvl 60s but just dont last long.

Wizard: Roots pet
Necro: Begins to cast Cancel Magic (3.3s)
Wizard: Casts Tishan's Discord to interrupt (2.25s, 150ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Stunned
Wizard: Casts Ice Spear of Solist (4s, 800ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Unstunned, Attempts to recast Cancel Magic (3.3s)
Wizard: Casts Markar's Discord to interrupt (3.3s, 500ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Stunned
Wizard: Casts Draught of Ice (3s, 500ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Dead

[Kruel]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wizard: Roots pet
Necro: Begins to cast Cancel Magic (3.3s)
Wizard: Casts Tishan's Discord to interrupt (2.25s, 150ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Stunned
Wizard: Casts Ice Spear of Solist (4s, 800ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Unstunned, Attempts to recast Cancel Magic (3.3s)
Wizard: Casts Markar's Discord to interrupt (3.3s, 500ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Stunned
Wizard: Casts Draught of Ice (3s, 500ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Dead

THIS SOUNDS GOOD - BUT AS SOON AS I SEE THE SOUND AND GRAPHIC IM STARTING MY CAST. SO I WOULDNT WAIT FOR THE ROOT TO BE DONE AND YOU GETTING READY TO CAST YOUR NEXT SPELL. HONESTLY HOW I WOULD START IS MY POISON DOT WHILE HITTING PET ATTACK.. THEN I WOULD PROBABLY CHAIN LIFETAP. IF YOU CHOSE TO ROOT THE PET THATS GREAT BUT YOU WILL BE 2/3 LIFE BEFORE STARTING YOUR NEXT SPELL. I WOULD ACTUALLY WAIT AT THAT TIME AND WAIT FOR YOU TO START YOUR NUKE AND I WOULD HIT MY HARDSHIELD. AS SOON AS THAT HIT I WOULD THEN CLICK IT OFF AND LIFETAP AGAIN.

ITS ALL THEORY BECAUSE ONE THING DONE WRONG EITHER IS DEAD. KEEP IN MIND I DID SAY WIZARD AND NECRO WOULD WIN. ITS A CRAP SHOOT. IMAGINE YOU GOT ONE RESIST ON ROOTING THE PET? FIGHT IS OVER.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wizard: Roots pet
Necro: Begins to cast Cancel Magic (3.3s)
Wizard: Casts Tishan's Discord to interrupt (2.25s, 150ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Stunned
Wizard: Casts Ice Spear of Solist (4s, 800ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Unstunned, Attempts to recast Cancel Magic (3.3s)
Wizard: Casts Markar's Discord to interrupt (3.3s, 500ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Stunned
Wizard: Casts Draught of Ice (3s, 500ish PvP dmg)
Necro: Dead

This is an interesting scenario, but why is the Necro sitting there waiting for a root to be cast on its pet and then casting Cancel Magic? If the Wizard is going to root the pet, Necro just casts fear on the Wiz and Wiz cannot get the stun off plus root in that timeframe. If Wiz doesn't resist the fear it's game over. If they resisted though then your strategy works I agree.

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by Kruel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in the arena the mez does land but it only last for a small time. With pets being allowed a naked wizard would have a problem with a necro. Wizard would of course try to root the pet immediately. As a necro i would mem both dispells and as soon as i saw a root graphics going off cast dispell on my pet. Wizard will start running, then just use root on wizard. Roots seem to land just fine on lvl 60s but just dont last long.

No pets and the wizard would absolutely dominate.

One EB and the wizard is dead. He can't dispell poison dots.