So Bard epic finally came down to earth prices, eh?

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You need a woodsmans staff. stat.

There is no other single upgrade better right now within your reach. Woody staff will absolutely crush winters + skyfury.

Especially since you solo...you're tanking unslowed mobs. Fewer mob ripostes = moar gud

And don't tell me you don't like 2 handers. Going on feels is for shitters. You'll thank me later.

Yeah yeah I know the drill, I will get one eventually. But I would be remiss not to say I do like going on feels. I like flashy animations and seeing a bunch of little swings, which is why, if I eventually go Monk, I'd probably prefer AC/SoS over T-Staff.

Does Woody crush SBoZ/BoC or Swifty though? I never figured +30 Attack is that huge of a DPS boost.

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boc is a waste buy sboz and your swift wind MQ, or just get a woodsman staff.

Doesn't BoC have a slightly better ratio? Something like .065 vs 0.61?

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lfay brownie soloable by ranger, done it several times usually track as I ran through. Sometimes it's just up

Yea true. I was meaning for his 49 Druid.

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I read on their page that Kittens did Sky/Fear/Hate and entry-level raids on the regular, it's the upper stuff like ToV they don't do often.

We do all sorts of stuff, especially on quakes. My comment was based on years of raiding Hate with Kittens. One year we got like 6 SEOC’s including mine. It’s been a bit dry lately but less people needing it so supply v demand. In four years or so I’ve only heard of one sub 60 main getting one on a random Hate raid. When minis spawn people to kill them fairly quickly so not much time to wait for a community event.

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does Woody crush SBoZ/BoC or Swifty though? I never figured +30 Attack is that huge of a DPS boost.

Doesn't BoC have a slightly better ratio? Something like .065 vs 0.61?

SBoZ is 40k. Woodsman is <4k. Your math is a bit off on the ratio and doesn’t include damage bonus which scales per level.
DW mid 50’s with a Swiftwind is probably better but it won’t be huge. Nothing really is once you get to relative tiers and 2h is very strong in recent patches. Plus you can nuke and jolt without watching your dps piddle away.

Also 2h for monks is really good. Anyone not using a Peacebringer or IFS for an AC/SoS these days is having fun but missing out, especially at 60. IMHO but I don’t have a monk.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea true. I was meaning for his 49 Druid.



We do all sorts of stuff, especially on quakes. My comment was based on years of raiding Hate with Kittens. One year we got like 6 SEOC’s including mine. It’s been a bit dry lately but less people needing it so supply v demand. In four years or so I’ve only heard of one sub 60 main getting one on a random Hate raid. When minis spawn people to kill them fairly quickly so not much time to wait for a community event.



SBoZ is 40k. Woodsman is <4k. Your math is a bit off on the ratio and doesn’t include damage bonus which scales per level.
DW mid 50’s with a Swiftwind is probably better but it won’t be huge. Nothing really is once you get to relative tiers and 2h is very strong in recent patches. Plus you can nuke and jolt without watching your dps piddle away.

Also 2h for monks is really good. Anyone not using a Peacebringer or IFS for an AC/SoS these days is having fun but missing out, especially at 60. IMHO but I don’t have a monk.

I’ll probably go all weapon types on a reroll later to keep them all relevant while leveling, Woody, SS, Backstabber and Jade Mace. But I still love my Lammies even if Woody outparses them. They just feel so slick.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’ll probably go all weapon types on a reroll later to keep them all relevant while leveling, Woody, SS, Backstabber and Jade Mace. But I still love my Lammies even if Woody outparses them. They just feel so slick.

just kill the same mobs...one w/ your lammies and one with your woody

you wont feel anything for the lammies after that

[jolanar]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just kill the same mobs...one w/ your lammies and one with your woody

you wont feel anything for the lammies after that

As a person who prefers dual wield, I kinda hate how much better 2h weapons are this late in the P99 timeline.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a person who prefers dual wield, I kinda hate how much better 2h weapons are this late in the P99 timeline.

its not even the extra damage that has all the appeal...you just take a lot less damage too...moar merbs per hour

i think what turns people off is the negative side of the RNG - when your hits dry up for a few swings it just feels so bad

but then you have these massive max/near max with a big riposte...those go less noticed...theres some psychological term for it but i cant remember

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a person who prefers dual wield, I kinda hate how much better 2h weapons are this late in the P99 timeline.

I have a Vyemm whip and claw of lightning in my bag. It’s sad but even with a spiked belt and shiss the Cek 2h is often higher.

There are still reasons to DW. Stats and proc. Mixing it up. Quick swapping to tash/slow/bfg for a ranger. But yea…2h is very very strong.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a Vyemm whip and claw of lightning in my bag. It’s sad but even with a spiked belt and shiss the Cek 2h is often higher.

There are still reasons to DW. Stats and proc. Mixing it up. Quick swapping to tash/slow/bfg for a ranger. But yea…2h is very very strong.

god i love that vyemm whip...was god tier before the rune aggro nerf but still let my warrior do some really fun, off meta duos in conjunction with truncheon slow

literally anyone with a root and we could dominate some pretty big xp camps

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its not even the extra damage that has all the appeal...you just take a lot less damage too...moar merbs per hour

i think what turns people off is the negative side of the RNG - when your hits dry up for a few swings it just feels so bad

but then you have these massive max/near max with a big riposte...those go less noticed...theres some psychological term for it but i cant remember

I think a saying my old 3DSMax professor preached applies here.

"You don't get noticed for the 99% you do right, you get noticed for the 1% you do wrong."

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

god i love that vyemm whip...was god tier before the rune aggro nerf but still let my warrior do some really fun, off meta duos in conjunction with truncheon slow

literally anyone with a root and we could dominate some pretty big xp camps

Yea a shame about that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] . It’s still very nice for mitigation tanking and sucking up AoE’s. The 25mr is hard to beat for a pulling weapon too or I expect a warrior just trying to avoid fears and do dps.