CHARMING AND MEZZING

[pasi]

Man, I missed the Gates of Discord discussion. I love Gates of Discord discussion!

Iirc, Gates of Discord and Omens of War started off at the same expansion before being divided up into separate expansions. Gates may have been designed around level 70 play - which would make sense as to why mid-tier 6man content was hitting as hard as Plane of Time raid encounters (in terms of raw numeric value; not factoring in ATK/rate obviously).

EQ pumped out expansions q6-12 months, so my guess is that it was too late in the development cycle to go back and adjust most content back to level 65. EQ didn't really have players beta test much prior to pumping out the expansion either. I don't recall guilds being asked to test encounters until LDoN. And even then, it was usually the first tier. We (a guild one-daying PoTime) had tested one of the Vex Thal - level Ruj Raids in LDoN (as opposed to Elemental or PoTime level). For GoD, I think we were asked to test Ikkinz 1 or 2?

In retrospect, most of the tuning problems in GoD had to do with trash mobs and encounter adds hitting way too hard. In other words, adds hitting for 3k when bosses hit for 4k. Contrasted with say POP having adds hit for 1k when bosses hit for 3k. So, they may have had time to adjust the bosses damage tables, but I think adds/trash were left alone. The OG Uqua death-spawns quadded for 3k which usually meant a wipe if someone died.

[Jimjam]

I do feel like root was far less reliable on live than here. Like I’d rarely use higher level roots because the chances of an advanced root to last longer than the duration of the basic root felt slim.

I’m not confident in that memory- perhaps I was rooting the wrong level mobs, roots were being dispelled or broken by nukes/aoe. /shrug.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do feel like root was far less reliable on live than here. Like I’d rarely use higher level roots because the chances of an advanced root to last longer than the duration of the basic root felt slim.

I’m not confident in that memory- perhaps I was rooting the wrong level mobs, roots were being dispelled or broken by nukes/aoe. /shrug.

I never played an Enchanter on live, but as a Shaman I remember using the basic "Root" almost exclusively in the classic era, for the same reason ... and this should be something with lots of evidence available.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and this should be something with lots of evidence available.

I'm a terrible classic researcher, but I did find these on the Caster's Realm archive (emphasis added):

Originally Posted by https://web.archive.org/web/20011227232314/http://eq.castersrealm.com/playguides/VIEW.ASP?ID=354

2. Second slot : Root (forget enstill; it is worthless. Stick with root, and ALWAYS have it hotkeyed. I use hotkey 3 for this, keeping it directly next to my nuke at hotkey 4)

Originally Posted by https://web.archive.org/web/20010830073545/http://eq.castersrealm.com/playguides/VIEW.ASP?ID=767

Then you ROOT (root only none of that enstil crap!) walk a good distance away but not out of spell range.

[Chortles Snortles]

>castersrealm noob guides taken as definitive proof
(lol)

[spoil]

If you've ever root rotted for an extended period of time, get help.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by spoil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you've ever root rotted for an extended period of time, get help.

It was a key part of classic EQ (for some classses at least) ... and we're all here for classic EQ right?

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was a key part of classic EQ (for some classses at least) ... and we're all here for classic EQ right?

No. You want people to behave as if it's 1999. You aren't getting your childhood back. Enjoy what we have and be grateful.

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we're all here for classic EQ right?

That ship sailed long ago. Everyone is here for p99 not classic eq.

[Tann]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That ship sailed long ago. Everyone is here for p99 not classic eq.

Closest we're going to get to classic EverQuest, doesn't have to be perfect.. just close enough.