Ok I’m officially ready for a new PVP server

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Darkone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only difference is most green people are actively voicing against a new pvp server (that they wont even play on) while pvp players don't give a shit if they open 3 more blue servers.

See the difference here? There's an obvious butthurt'edness about pvp, why don't you just let us have a new pvp server to have fun on? Red is dead because its 13 years old and everyone has everything and 10+ toons, there is nothing to fight over because everyone already has everything then whats the point?

Just stop being mad about pvpers wanting a server and go about your day, you'll get green 2.0 either way.

Oh, I see, you may have confused me with Rogean and Nilbog as I am unable to prevent them from starting an new red and they give less than zero shits what I think about it.

Additionally, I give less than zero shits if they do start a new red server or not, more power to everyone, we'd all like to see how it goes at least if it happened.

I do however find you lot utterly sad and pathetic for posting on PvE forum sections with your hopeless quest for a new red server, when you have a red forum section buried underneath the green and blue forums, where it belongs.

[Old_PVP]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, the most popular everquest ruleset for over 20 years is clearly the one no one actually wants to play. How do people not see this?

You're right, it's not the most popular obviously, and never has been. Doesn't mean it's not the best though. Bluebies are usually delusional is the problem. They would rather LawyerQuest as grown man children then solve perfectly solvable problems like camp disputes and raid rotations by simply just competing against other players. PVP servers done right have players governing themselves, alliances forming, guild politics and betrayal and ultimately guild wars and new rules drawn up by the victors. Blue / Green is just a bunch of middle aged stay-at-home sons squabbling about in game pixels with whistleblowers around every corner trying to catch the slightest rule breaking so they can present the evidence to their middle aged caretaker overlords who are obliged to police & hand-hold this dysfuntional playerbase like the little man children that they are.

EverQuest PVP has historically garnered ~10% of the active playerbase, even on live. 40 or so Live servers back in the day, 4 of them were PVP. Many people are interested in trying PVP, however maybe they are too heavily invested in Blue / Green or want a fresh start, or don't like the particular Red ruleset. Whatever the reason, history would suggest that if a PVP server were to be done correctly from the start, it would attract & retain 300 - 500 active players, maybe more.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Old_PVP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blue / Green is just a bunch of middle aged stay-at-home sons squabbling about in game pixels with whistleblowers around every corner trying to catch the slightest rule breaking so they can present the evidence to their middle aged caretaker overlords who are obliged to police & hand-hold this dysfuntional playerbase like the little man children that they are.

Duck/cancel COTH for hours lmao

#advantage

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Old_PVP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EverQuest PVP has historically garnered ~10% of the active playerbase, even on live. 40 or so Live servers back in the day, 4 of them were PVP. Many people are interested in trying PVP, however maybe they are too heavily invested in Blue / Green or want a fresh start, or don't like the particular Red ruleset. Whatever the reason, history would suggest that if a PVP server were to be done correctly from the start, it would attract & retain 300 - 500 active players, maybe more.

10% of blue and green's player base would be like 200 people or less.

I'm sure they can't wait to develop, organize, and staff a third server so that a couple hundred four-chan rejects who can't stop hurling slurs in global /ooc can get a fresh start on being the first max level griefers to drive off all the other players. Sounds like a great use of staff resources.

[Old_PVP]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

10% of blue and green's player base would be like 200 people or less.

I'm sure they can't wait to develop, organize, and staff a third server so that a couple hundred four-chan rejects who can't stop hurling slurs in global /ooc can get a fresh start on being the first max level griefers to drive off all the other players. Sounds like a great use of staff resources.

Not everyone is online at the same time. There are usually ~2000 total people playing P99 between Blue, Green & Red during prime time hours. However, you and I both know that not everyone is playing right now, putting the real population of actual people that play P99 servers at probably double that figure. Honestly, the 300 - 500 estimate of active players for Red is probably a lowball estimate. Active players... not concurrently active players. Also you must factor in that we are currently only talking about Project99 population and haven't even taken into consideration the wider EQEmu community or gamers from different games entirely. "if a PVP server were to be done correctly from the start" which is what I said, then we would most likely see an even higher estimate for those population numbers, as the amount of people that have been wanting a good quality EverQuest PVP server isn't only limited to the Project99 community.

But ok, go ahead and host the exact same PVE bluebie server...again... for the 3rd time... and deal with the exact same camp disputes from slightly older & crankier middle aged man-children-whistleblowing-lawyerquesters.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Old_PVP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But ok, go ahead and host the exact same PVE bluebie server...again... for the 3rd time... and deal with the exact same camp disputes from slightly older & crankier middle aged man-children-whistleblowing-lawyerquesters.

I'll play whatever's new, ngl.

However...blue raiding politics is all kinds of bad.

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[pink grapefruit]

My sincere belief is that if the majority of bluebies had randomly selected a pvp server to play on back in 1999 (or whenever), the vast majority of these would have fallen in love with the experience and demanded more pvp servers and fun pvp mechanics in all future mmos.

It is high time we normalized pvp!

[Ripqozko]

Red sucks, hope that helps. Red can’t even beat green in pvp . Get good and come back .

[Darkone]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red sucks, hope that helps. Red can’t even beat green in pvp . Get good and come back .

Sorry to tell you that the real pvpers left red over 5 years ago, the ones green fought were more or less exiled bluebies who went to red to have uncontested pve for years on end. Congrats you beat a couple of bluebies in pvp, git gud

[Agrimir]

Originally Posted by Darkone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry to tell you that the real pvpers left red over 5 years ago, the ones green fought were more or less exiled bluebies who went to red to have uncontested pve for years on end. Congrats you beat a couple of bluebies in pvp, git gud

The only people left on red are the ones that won the war over the servers resources so LOL at this