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Old 03-11-2023, 01:06 AM
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armies guarantee sovereignty

without an army, all you got is calligraphy on toilet paper.

in fact, if you cannot guarantee your own sovereignty, the UN will not recognize your statehood. This is one of the UN's statehood requirements.

"The Pen" only makes official what the military already did.
Armies do not guarantee sovereignty. Armies can lose.
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Old 03-11-2023, 01:10 AM
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Armies do not guarantee sovereignty. Armies can lose.
I know that you aren't this dumb
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Old 03-11-2023, 01:13 AM
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Holy Russia is bleeding to death.

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Ukraine is spending about a mil a day. Russia is spending about 20 mil a day.
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:25 AM
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Armies do not guarantee sovereignty. Armies can lose.
Exactly. So much granular thinking here ‘this one thing is the magic solution’ when clearly things are more complicated than that.

We can see from case studies that an army is useful, but as you say it is no guarantee. Both Ukraine now and the American Independence would be nowhere without the diplomatic support of outside super powers (the West in the first instance, imperial France in the second).

On a state/national level if America were to collapse (it won’t - some of the institutions are too powerful to allow full on collapse) whoever comes put on top won’t be some local farmer with a gun it will be whoever can levy the best support from outside forces (Nato, China, etc).

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Old 03-11-2023, 04:25 AM
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Jimjam, I want to buy your rock.
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:29 AM
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Idk if you’re saying i am based with stable foundation or i’m detached from reality smoking crystals.

Eother way you’re welcome to share ��.
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:39 AM
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Idk if you’re saying i am based with stable foundation or i’m detached from reality smoking crystals.

Eother way you’re welcome to share ��.
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:39 AM
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