JBB, is it really that good?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...9&postcount=80 going to repost this from the other FSI thread if you are interested in a more detailed breakdown of the data I posted previously. This is data showing averages over a total of ~7300 kills.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...5&postcount=85 please read this post instead, as I forgot to take into account miss chance in the previous post I linked. 85 has the complete calculation.

[BrandGNU97]

My God, how is this still going? Sad really.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by BrandGNU97 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My God, how is this still going? Sad really.

cos JBB is just that darned good!

[BrandGNU97]

JBB > FSI?
DSM = Triggered. twitch twitch.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by BrandGNU97 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

JBB > FSI?
DSM = Triggered. twitch twitch.

I am not sure where you think I was triggered. I just keep posting facts, and then people get mad because FSI triggers them.

Just play Ogre and you get JBB + FSI[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not sure where you think I was triggered. I just keep posting facts, and then people get mad because FSI triggers them.

Just play Ogre and you get JBB + FSI[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Trelaboon]

It’s awesome while leveling but I basically never use it at 60. I prefer to just Pox and Bane and then Canni and refresh. Ended up selling it because I never really used it. I guess it has uses at 60 with torpor, but not worth the amount of plat it’s worth imo. Others may disagree. But while leveling it’s awesome, though not worth halting your leveling progress to farm play to buy one, as others mentioned.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Trelaboon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s awesome while leveling but I basically never use it at 60. I prefer to just Pox and Bane and then Canni and refresh. Ended up selling it because I never really used it. I guess it has uses at 60 with torpor, but not worth the amount of plat it’s worth imo. Others may disagree. But while leveling it’s awesome, though not worth halting your leveling progress to farm play to buy one, as others mentioned.

JBB is still great at 60. One common use is for clearing out trash that isn't too difficult, since you don't need to spend mana doing it.

I also use it when fighting WW dragons. If the dragon gets my health down faster than anticipated, I throw on a torpor and do 1-2 JBB casts while waiting to get back to safe levels of HP.

I also use it for low agro damage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umuVBewCNgY . With the new changes to poison/disease spells it may not be as necessary anymore, I need to test it.

[Trelaboon]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

JBB is still great at 60. One common use is for clearing out trash that isn't too difficult, since you don't need to spend mana doing it.

I also use it when fighting WW dragons. If the dragon gets my health down faster than anticipated, I throw on a torpor and do 1-2 JBB casts while waiting to get back to safe levels of HP.

I also use it for low agro damage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umuVBewCNgY . With the new changes to poison/disease spells it may not be as necessary anymore, I need to test it.

You might be right. I have just found that the duration of pox/bane ends up lasting about the amount of time it takes me to canni back the mana I used to cast them, then torpor and by then bane has usually worn off. Bane does more dps than a JBB if chain casted with no interrupts, so it never made sense to me to use JBB over Bane when the time it takes to build the mana back up after casting it, is similar to the duration of bane.

I admittedly don’t enjoy my shaman that much and therefore don’t play him that often. I’d rather use my enchanter to farm, if I’m gonna do it, so I’m not the best authority on the class. I would never use a JBB over Bane though. The only time I could see clicking a JBB is on a mob that wouldn’t live long enough for Bane to run its course (which is almost never) or if you have 8 seconds left before bane wears off and you canni/torpor back to full, then I’d click it. But that’s not worth 16-18k to me.