In case you had any doubt about the Democrat agenda

[Ooloo]

The problem with homeschooling is that many of the same people who can't afford a private school of their choice, whose cirricula they approve of, also can't afford to stay home and school their children while also working two jobs, if they're even capable of educating a child.

So there really is no good argument against full transparency for public schools. Of course you can't accommodate every parental concern, but they have a responsibility to try, and this notion that they should have some kind of sacred teacher\student confidentiality agreement with children is insane.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The right went full schizo reasoning since their middle east adventurism wars failed horribly.

We're living in the aftermath to this day.

The establishment went to the middle east not "the right"

There are 2 parties, the establishment and the anti establishment.

The establishment was daddy republicans during the middle east wars, now it's mommy democrats today.

Same subset of all the shitty idiots from all the different groups around the country, all working together to hide behind the beast for protection.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it’s a complete exaggeration, on both sides. Here’s what really happened:

Lesson plans were made more transparent because they had to be for online school during covid. Parents started noticing in a few isolated incidents teachers teaching some stuff they found highly questionable. A few isolated incidents

Then teachers brought these concerns to parent teacher meetings or the school board, which is the appropriate place to bring them. In a few isolated incidents, these meetings got out of control and people got arrested. The vast majority of the meetings went completely fine, and ended with probably something similar to what Gravy said “This is our lesson, if you don’t want it for your child there is homeschooling”

Both sides are trying to exaggerate the frequency of problems like it’s all over the country. I go into schools and talk to parents all the time about their gender confused children, do you know how many have identified something in schools they didn’t like to me, just as a way of venting? Zero

Sounds like you want to create a dictatorship of the progenitariat.

Good luck with that.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with homeschooling is that many of the same people who can't afford a private school of their choice, whose cirricula they approve of, also can't afford to stay home and school their children while also working two jobs, if they're even capable of educating a child.

So there really is no good argument against full transparency for public schools. Of course you can't accommodate every parental concern, but they have a responsibility to try, and this notion that they should have some kind of sacred teacher\student confidentiality agreement with children is insane.

Yep

Counseling and medical has a much higher confidentiality than any other service, maybe even with lawyer attorney client privilege

Gravy might be steaming pissed about this, but even the confidential counselor + kid professional relationship can be legally violated by a parent whenever they want. They are legally allowed to not only know what the counselor is talking to their kid about, but also to sit in on the counseling session

Same I’m assuming goes for medical appointments

So to act like there is some important and sacred teacher + child confidentiality to protect the kids is ridiculous, because a parent can literally sit in on their kid’s counseling session to prevent a child from gathering the courage to tell their counselor that the parent physically abuses them. Pretty fucked up but that’s how it goes

BUT FUCKING WOW, luckily 99% of parents are pretty normal and don’t do that (sit in on their counseling sessions). Golly gee

[Reiwa]

Dooming children to the same psychological hell as their parents dulce et decorum est?

lol

[unsunghero]

No one here is going to convince me that a parent shouldn’t have access to their kid’s lesson plan

Gravy bringing up the debate over evolution only helps my argument because that issue (evolution being taught in schools) is not at all new in the last 2 years. And low and behold, there has never been national outrage and parents becoming domestic terrorists plotting jihad against schools like Dem media want people to believe parents are doing now

They found out their kid was being taught evolution, they made their arguments about it in a mature way, and the problem was resolved, quietly, one way or another for fucking decades and decades now. So yeah, evolution was a great example to bring up

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one here is going to convince me that a parent shouldn’t have access to their kid’s lesson plan

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep

Gravy might be steaming pissed about this, but even the confidential counselor + kid professional relationship can be legally violated by a parent whenever they want. They are legally allowed to not only know what the counselor is talking to their kid about, but also to sit in on the counseling session

So to act like there is some important and sacred teacher + child confidentiality to protect the kids is ridiculous, because a parent can literally sit in on their kid’s counseling session to prevent a child from gathering the courage to tell their counselor that the parent physically abuses them. Pretty fucked up but that’s how it goes

Are you sure noone can? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Gravydoo II]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You’re assuming that just because a parent had access to a lesson plan that they are going to dispute it

If we are coming from the assumption that all these teachers are normal, professional, and teaching appropriate materials, then you should also come from the assumption that parents are normal professional (different field), and ok with teachers teaching appropriate materials. You don’t get to claim a giant portion of the population is normal and another is batshit crazy because it suits your argument

Edit: does a teacher who is a parent kind of scramble the argument? On one hand they are normal and wise because they are a teacher, on the other hand they are controlling and crazy because they are a parent?

Why would they want to see if they dont want to change something? Every week, if they cared, im sure they could go up to the school or get a progress report. Hell, they could even ask their kids "what did you learn in school today" and be like 12 hours late on their out rage. Like there are so many reasons they dont need to see every last thing the teacher is going to be teaching. If its history, history. Math, math. Science, science.

I just dont understand why all the sudden? They want to know every last thing being taught in schools when it didnt matter a year ago. Now, since fox news told them to be upset about the liberals indoctrinating their kids, here we are.

I seriously doubt its because parents want the school to dive deeper into subjects.

[azeth]

Imagine posting on the internet without at least a masters degree from a Massachusetts based university

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine posting on the internet without at least a masters degree from a Massachusetts based university

imagine thinking in your own mind that you possess a shred of wit.