50's SK Gear Advice

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No argument, because if there was an argument we'd all be Ogres for their stamina advantage. You make do with what you have. EQ's a Big Numbers game and a few points of a stat here or there don't make enough of a difference to matter overmuch for the most part. 10 AC here or 30 HP there aren't enough to get bent out of shape over, especially if you're wearing TOV-quality gear in some slots so it can compensate you having mediocre stuff in other slots and average out.

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I do think DEX improves proc rate more or less to the cap. I notice a difference in average epic proc uptime between, say, 170 to 245 DEX. I don't need to gear for DEX since my wife plays a shaman, but for a few specific weapons I can see an argument in favor of stacking it if the player in question doesn't happen to have a shaman spouse. Fact is this game allows for more than one way of accomplishing most goals, and that's part of what's fun about it. We don't all have to be cookie cutter.

Danth

Exactly, that is a succinct way to explain my over-verbosity[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're not thinking big enough. It's not just the HP from the spider fur belt. You have to add the HP from the boots of dark passage, the 6/65 rings, and the crystal chitin armplates. That's a 235 raw HP increase.

It's called soak. The effective HP of your total HP+mitigation+avoidance.

Adding HP directly increases this. And every HP you have effectively increases any healing you have, including life taps, vampiric embrace, and even your troll regen because every time you your displayed hits 2621 HP, anything over that is a waste. But increasing it by 235 means that you have that extra little window on top that you will fill up every single time your HP goes above 2621.

Quit thinking about the HP on the bottom end like a bottom end player.

Besides, you do 0 dps when you're dead. You have 0 procs when you're dead.

I have been a part of many raids as a healer both on my Shaman and Cleric. I understand how HP soak works. I understand that in raid situations where you are being riposted for 500 damage and hit with a 300 damage AoE every 20 seconds, survivability matters more than a bit of extra PPM or DPS. Dead means 0 DPS as you point out.

The issue here is you are really stuck on the idea of how P99 works in raiding situations. That is the minority of content on P99 that MOST players do not experience, and SK's shouldn't be raiding. This thread was not titled "How should I try and gear my SK to tank Flurries?"

In most solo/group encounters as an SK, I am rarely at 100% HP (so I can benefit from taps + regen), AND I am not close to death, usually 800HP or more away. It is the same with my Shaman. He has 2.5k HP, and I am rarely at full HP or near death unless I screw up somehow.

Skilled players don't need 3k+ HP for solo/group content in most cases, which is what this thread is about. When you do need more than 3K HP, that usually means the content actually needs a Warrior to disc. Sadly P99 doesn't have a lot of true "in the middle" encounters. It is either trivial, or requires specialized classes.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In most solo/group encounters as an SK

It's funny how I just explained how it impacts your shitty SK and you're still arguing.

I've provided evidence where other players are saying the same thing.

You just don't learn things very well, do you?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's funny how I just explained how it impacts your shitty SK and you're still arguing.

I've provided evidence where other players are saying the same thing.

You just don't learn things very well, do you?

Oh I understand what you are saying completely, but you aren't talking about normal encounters, you are talking about raiding[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] If you are the type of player who spends most of their time raiding, you may have forgotten how the majority of the game works, which is understandable if you love the raid scene. It is quite enjoyable, but not how most of the game works, and that is the realm in which OP was asking about.

[Samoht]

I mean, the difference between raiding and not raiding is that you are much more likely to die when you're wrong when you're raiding.

You can be wrong when you're not raiding and be less likely to die.

But it doesn't make you right.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, the difference between raiding and not raiding is that you are much more likely to die when you're wrong when you're raiding.

You can be wrong when you're not raiding and be less likely to die.

But it doesn't make you right.

Are you the type of player who doesn't let anyone into their group unless they are raid geared? As Danth points out, you do realize MOST content on P99 can be done basically in rags (and people do that often)? I really don't know why you have such a hard on for Max HP, as it really is situational, and not in OP's line of questioning.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand that in raid situations where you are being riposted for 500 damage

Tip of the day, unrelated to the thread at large: If you're in a raid being hit for those 500's, tank with attack off and hold aggro solely with spells. You take no ripostes that way and your healers will notice the spike reduction. Knights seldom receive CH chains but even if you are it allows you to plan it without needing to account for riposte spikes.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you the type of player who doesn't let anyone into their group unless they are raid geared? As Danth points out, you do realize MOST content on P99 can be done basically in rags (and people do that often)? I really don't know why you have such a hard on for Max HP, as it really is situational, and not in OP's line of questioning.

OP requested gear suggestions for a 50s SK. You suggested some bad gear. I offered suggestions on improvements for that bad gear. You requested detailed explanations on why the suggestions were better but refused to accept any of the suggestions without a fully cited bibliography, and are still refusing to accept the suggested improvements because you just can't fathom that somebody would want good gear suggestions when asking for gear suggestions.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP requested gear suggestions for a 50s SK. You suggested some bad gear. I offered suggestions on improvements for that bad gear. You requested detailed explanations on why the suggestions were better but refused to accept any of the suggestions without a fully cited bibliography, and are still refusing to accept the suggested improvements because you just can't fathom that somebody would want good gear suggestions when asking for gear suggestions.

I did not suggest bad gear, you simply incorrectly assume Max HP is better than everything, which is wrong.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did not suggest bad gear

No, you very much did right here:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a fellow Troll SK, you can look at my Magelo in my Sig to get ideas on what to fill your other slots with.

Link to said magelo

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you very much did right here:



Link to said magelo

Again, you being wrong does not make my gear bad[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] If you are unable to play the game without the Max HP crutch, that is fine. But not everybody needs that crutch, and have the experience to trade a bit of survivability for a bit of kill speed without increased death rate. Increasing kill speed is the superior way to go when you do not need the survivability. This is especially true on an SK, who already has great built in survivability, but needs a DPS boost when soloing and sometimes when grouping. If you are raiding with your SK, your are doing it wrong.