Love

[magnetaress]

And yes I feel bad when I see a lone bee unable to fly. Crawling on the cold rocky ground in the deep shade.

I know better than to try to save an individual drone. I still feel the bee though.

I feel like that bee. I know what it's like to be cold and shivering on the floor, unable to get up and feeling like my life is rapidly bleeding away.

I am that bee.

[imperiouskitten]

i finally quit lexapro a few days ago and my love sensors are wayyyyyyy unclouded btw. sensitivity way up. it's gonna be a good life

[imperiouskitten]

wrong but pretty close to all, yes.

get yo protein

[imperiouskitten]

main issue with simple sugar is it is needs no metabolysis to function as fuel. so all it has to do is get into solution and it over-sugars you, causing an insulin spike to compensate for basically an overdose. those insulin spikes have some really wide reaching effects downstream, so many that we probably don't know all the ways it hurts you, but u can read about that.

more complex sugars are essentially glucose held in molecular chains, so the chain has to be chewed up before u get dosed with the sugar, so it hits smoother and the same volume of glucose sustains you for longer, like time release adderall. proteins are metabolized into their constituent amino acids, not glucose, which is the main thing which makes pokesan wrong. Although there is a pathway for taking the chemical energy out of amino acids to invest it into fuel, it is an alternative pathway and doesn't involve glucose, sort of a backup starvation pathway (abused in all-meat diets, turns ur pee into caustic stinking brown stew, while starving ur brain for glucose which probably atrophies it, turning u into Joe Rogan). Other things are "vitamins", those are miscellaneous compounds with various properties which are not sugar either, and "fiber", which actually is made of a sugar chain but u don't digest it because it's built into basically indigestable plant-plastic.

fat metabolizes down to glucose too tho yes iirc. but not all fatty acids *do* get metabolized into glucose, because they are of structural use.

*note:i am treating ATP and glucose pretty interchangeably here

[magnetaress]

I hope Cassawary isn't a physician.

Then when after 24-48 hrs, probably even less in most organisms (like 6-10 hrs for me since I'm a practiced faster) my body goes into fat dripping occasional glucose molecules at a clockwork rate. I have experienced this burning like 3000 calories on a ruck march (***like running through the forest in gear with boxes of supplies held in my arms for hours, off trail, up and down ravines, logs, jumping) without starvation as my glycogen reserves don't last all that long. (I have always had superhuman physical endurance in the past) that's another reason this CFS thing is horrific.

That's probably why I feel good and the brain fog goes away if I don't eat.

I feel like crap after a normal meal where food was cooked with sugar.

My a1c and triglycerides and cholesterols and stuff are always perfect with every blood test.

I'm just Bene Gesserit. In touch with my molecular biology. I can feel the poisoning the minute a sugar molecule reaches my tissues. It is so fucking real. I is also a part of whatever this ME/CFS is. There's definitely a metabolic component detatched from pure insulin. Tho I don't doubt my healthy pancreas loads me with it after a regular cola.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by imperiouskitten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

main issue with simple sugar is it is needs no metabolysis to function as fuel. so all it has to do is get into solution and it over-sugars you, causing an insulin spike to compensate for basically an overdose. those insulin spikes have some really wide reaching effects downstream, so many that we probably don't know all the ways it hurts you, but u can read about that.

more complex sugars are essentially glucose held in molecular chains, so the chain has to be chewed up before u get dosed with the sugar, so it hits smoother and the same volume of glucose sustains you for longer, like time release adderall. proteins are metabolized into their constituent amino acids, not glucose, which is the main thing which makes pokesan wrong. Although there is a pathway for taking the chemical energy out of amino acids to invest it into fuel, it is an alternative pathway and doesn't involve glucose, sort of a backup starvation pathway (abused in all-meat diets, turns ur pee into caustic stinking brown stew, while starving ur brain for glucose which probably atrophies it, turning u into Joe Rogan). Other things are "vitamins", those are miscellaneous compounds with various properties which are not sugar either, and "fiber", which actually is made of a sugar chain but u don't digest it because it's built into basically indigestable plant-plastic.

fat metabolizes down to glucose too tho yes iirc. but not all fatty acids *do* get metabolized into glucose, because they are of structural use.

*note:i am treating ATP and glucose pretty interchangeably here

Thank you for this discussion. I miss the Kreb's Cycle and I learn more about it every time I go back. I had a surgeon tell me epinephrine was only a vasoconstrictor when I told him it was both a vasoconstrictor and vasodialator. Shoulda stuck to my guns. It IS both, depending on alpha or beta receptor. He's probably more right than me, but it feels nice to know that I'm still right. Also, you didn't answer my previous query. Don't read ill intent into it. Genuinely curious.

Looks like fat mostly skips the pyruvate stage which you get two of from a glucose molecule and jumps into kreb's cycle as acetyl-CoA after fatty acid chains undergo beta oxidation. This is significant because the nervous system only runs on glucose. Do you know why? I don't.

Edit: Just learned ketones act as brain fuel, too, albeit probably worse than glucose and 100% turn you into Joe Rogan.

[Cassawary]

White sugar is just chopped up cane stalks, a type of bamboo.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Cassawary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

White sugar is just chopped up cane stalks, a type of bamboo.

Man. Or woman. It's impossible to tell with you.

It is not "just chopped up cane stalks".

I saw how it was made in the olden days first hand. However I think it's chemically treated now.

Screening Edit
The remaining sugar is then dissolved to make a syrup (about 70 percent by weight solids), which is clarified by the addition of phosphoric acid and calcium hydroxide that combine to precipitate calcium phosphate. The calcium phosphate particles entrap some impurities and absorb others, and then float to the top of the tank, where they are skimmed off.

After any remaining solids are filtered out, the clarified syrup is decolorized by filtration through the use of bone char, which is made from the bones of cattle,[3] a bed of activated carbon or, in more modern plants, ion-exchange resin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_refinery

Man the sugar industry is like obfuscating the chemicals used and the sourcing it IS SO BAD. *the byproducts and waste also get dumped into the waterways here.

Enjoy your prion diseased bone ash.

Old school molasses wasn't so bad. Old school smol refineries weren't so bad. But they get the poisoness toxic abiotic sludge used to make ur sugar from the pits of hell and China now.

Don't fuck with me bro, girl. I am fully awakened.

Stop hurting yourself and stop trying to make fun of me because I love Godliness and purity. And care about fish and life other than my tastebuds.

Just eat a beat instead.

[magnetaress]

Aside from the spiritual pain and suffering endured at any amount.

Is there any safe amount of white refined sugar to consume in any single dose that doesn't cause stressful oxidation and insulin responses? At all?

Like can sugar be microdosed?

[Cassawary]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aside from the spiritual pain and suffering endured at any amount.

Is there any safe amount of white refined sugar to consume in any single dose that doesn't cause stressful oxidation and insulin responses? At all?

Like can sugar be microdosed?

But it's natural