If you wear a mask for any reason

[douglas1999]

One side is going: "Hey it looks like we kind of understand this better now 12 months out, and it's not that it's no big deal, but maybe we should re-think how we are approaching handling this disease"

The other side is going "NO! It's as bad as people say and always has been and you don't care about dead grandmas and every single piece of information I have about this pandemic is 100% unassailable and I am utterly unwilling to consider any contrary information!!!"

But apparently *we're* the ones politicizing things and being unreasonable and unwilling to have our minds changed. Right.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One side is going: "Hey it looks like we kind of understand this better now 12 months out, and it's not that it's no big deal, but maybe we should re-think how we are approaching handling this disease"

The other side is going "NO! It's as bad as people say and always has been and you don't care about dead grandmas and every single piece of information I have about this pandemic is 100% unassailable and I am utterly unwilling to consider any contrary information!!!"

But apparently *we're* the ones politicizing things and being unreasonable and unwilling to have our minds changed. Right.

Except your candidate's CDC is putting out data that shows masks are effective in reducing viral load and therefore effective at reducing transmission. So your description is incorrect.

It's more one side is saying "hey we should do this because the data is showing that it's quite possible that it helps...and oh by the way wearing a mask isn't really an inconvenience at all so let's err on the side of caution."

And the other group is going "no! We don't want to! And we'll just pretend that what the CDC's data shows isn't real!"

Just wear a mask for a couple more months until we can get the vaccine out to most people. It's really not a big deal.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except your candidate's CDC is putting out data that shows masks are effective in reducing viral load and therefore effective at reducing transmission.

The whole reason why you are scared of viruses in the first place is that your own cells will replicate even a tiny dose.

In any case, it's possible that the CDC is correct and the American Association of Physicians is wrong. But it seems ridiculous to conclude that someone who has read both pages is dumber than someone who has only read one. Why not stop shitposting for 15 minutes and read their page? Or are you afraid of being wrong once in a while?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The whole reason why you are scared of viruses in the first place is that your own cells will replicate even a tiny dose.

In any case, it's possible that the CDC is correct and the American Association of Physicians is wrong. But it seems ridiculous to conclude that someone who has read both pages is dumber than someone who has only read one. Why not stop shitposting for 15 minutes and read their page? Or are you afraid of being wrong once in a while?

So we have a potentially deadly virus outbreak. And we have the CDC saying essentially "hey, the data shows that there's a good likelihood that doing this very minor thing that doesn't inconvenience you could save lives." So, if there's a likelihood that it could save lives, I am going to do it.

And you're saying "but hey go look at this page published by a conservative non-profit group that says the data is incorrect!"

I think in this case I'd rather err on the side of caution for everyone's sake and go with the data from the CDC (which IMO is a more legitimate source than a non-profit that has been proven to have political agendas in the past). If the CDC's data is accurate, then maybe I helped save someone's life (or, if they survive COVID, saved them from having other serious health complications in their later life due to having COVID)...and all I had to do is do something that doesn't inconvenience me at all and wear a mask when I go into a store or on public transportation etc.

And if the CDC's data ends up being inaccurate, then guess what it really didn't affect me negatively in any way because all I had to do was put a mask on inside. Such a burden!

Maybe if there weren't people like you around my friends and relatives who died of COVID would still be here.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by American Association of Physicians

AAPS is completely funded by membership dues and contributions, so we answer to and advocate for our physician members and not big corporate donors or government funding sources.

I can't believe you not only wrote an entire essay on why it would be dangerous for you to read peer-reviewed scientific papers that might contradict the Corporate/Government narrative, but then had the temerity to claim that my ignorance is killing people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnin...3Kruger_effect

[kjs86z]

Wear your mask and take your vaccine, goyim.

[BiG SiP]

My condolences elf

[Soothsayer]

Masks help. The weight of evidence from authoritative academic sources increasingly favors this statement. Do your fellow countrymen a favor and just wear the damn mask. Are some of you really so utterly selfish that you're willing to selectively ignore this and potentially endanger the lives of others? Do you honestly not care about your fellow man enough to at least do something that may very well protect him or her? Go ahead - cherry-pick the articles that support your point of view. Hell, I could cherry-pick an article that says microwaved food causes cancer. Does that make it so?

The fact that masks are a hot-button political issue in the United States is a stunning testament to our collective moral failure as a nation. And unless you're a researcher with truly in-depth knowledge of how disease transmission works, do what the overall academic consensus tells you to do. I'm willing to bet that most of you have no credentials and no expertise on the subject.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by Soothsayer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Masks help. The weight of evidence from authoritative academic sources increasingly favors this statement. Do your fellow countrymen a favor and just wear the damn mask. Are some of you really so utterly selfish that you're willing to selectively ignore this and potentially endanger the lives of others? Do you honestly not care about your fellow man enough to at least do something that may very well protect him or her? Go ahead - cherry-pick the articles that support your point of view. Hell, I could cherry-pick an article that says microwaved food causes cancer. Does that make it so?

The fact that masks are a hot-button political issue in the United States is a stunning testament to our collective moral failure as a nation. And unless you're a researcher with truly in-depth knowledge of how disease transmission works, do what the overall academic consensus tells you to do. I'm willing to bet that most of you have no credentials and no expertise on the subject.

Is this post about the flu, sars cov-1 or sars cov-2? I need to know which one you're talking about before I can berate you for being a bad person.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this post about the flu, sars cov-1 or sars cov-2? I need to know which one you're talking about before I can berate you for being a bad person.

Again, neither of you selfish and moronic individuals have been able to make a coherent and intelligent argument for why it's an issue for you to occasionally have to put on a mask (i.e. when you're indoors in a public place and not eating/drinking) just in case the data about it helping to reduce spread is accurate. Still waiting.