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Old 12-07-2020, 04:13 PM
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:24 PM
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:46 PM
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You’re wasting your time. There’s no evidence you can provide to change their minds.
https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/ has a load of studies that point pretty clearly to masks being at best minimally effective. The most recent 5000 person randomized controlled trial in Denmark failed to show a statistically significant difference.

By the way, according to official data China has had 80,000 COVID cases and 4000 total deaths. Do you believe them?
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:52 PM
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https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/ has a load of studies that point pretty clearly to masks being at best minimally effective. The most recent 5000 person randomized controlled trial in Denmark failed to show a statistically significant difference.

By the way, according to official data China has had 80,000 COVID cases and 4000 total deaths. Do you believe them?
Why is Trump's CDC putting out data that contradicts what you said then?
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:52 PM
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One side is going: "Hey it looks like we kind of understand this better now 12 months out, and it's not that it's no big deal, but maybe we should re-think how we are approaching handling this disease"

The other side is going "NO! It's as bad as people say and always has been and you don't care about dead grandmas and every single piece of information I have about this pandemic is 100% unassailable and I am utterly unwilling to consider any contrary information!!!"

But apparently *we're* the ones politicizing things and being unreasonable and unwilling to have our minds changed. Right.
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:02 PM
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Wear your mask and take your vaccine, goyim.
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:03 PM
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Why is CDC putting out data that contradicts what you said then?
Routine government corruption. The drug companies give hundreds of millions of dollars every year via slush funds like the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to whoever is willing to shill for them.

As someone who works on Wall Street you should be quite familiar with the carousel between the SEC/Treasury and top investment banks. It's the same way everywhere.

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Trump is just a random guy with orange hair sent to distract you from Agenda 2030. He's doing his job quite well, I might add.
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:03 PM
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One side is going: "Hey it looks like we kind of understand this better now 12 months out, and it's not that it's no big deal, but maybe we should re-think how we are approaching handling this disease"

The other side is going "NO! It's as bad as people say and always has been and you don't care about dead grandmas and every single piece of information I have about this pandemic is 100% unassailable and I am utterly unwilling to consider any contrary information!!!"

But apparently *we're* the ones politicizing things and being unreasonable and unwilling to have our minds changed. Right.
Except your candidate's CDC is putting out data that shows masks are effective in reducing viral load and therefore effective at reducing transmission. So your description is incorrect.

It's more one side is saying "hey we should do this because the data is showing that it's quite possible that it helps...and oh by the way wearing a mask isn't really an inconvenience at all so let's err on the side of caution."

And the other group is going "no! We don't want to! And we'll just pretend that what the CDC's data shows isn't real!"

Just wear a mask for a couple more months until we can get the vaccine out to most people. It's really not a big deal.
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:20 PM
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Except your candidate's CDC is putting out data that shows masks are effective in reducing viral load and therefore effective at reducing transmission.
The whole reason why you are scared of viruses in the first place is that your own cells will replicate even a tiny dose.

In any case, it's possible that the CDC is correct and the American Association of Physicians is wrong. But it seems ridiculous to conclude that someone who has read both pages is dumber than someone who has only read one. Why not stop shitposting for 15 minutes and read their page? Or are you afraid of being wrong once in a while?
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:37 PM
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The whole reason why you are scared of viruses in the first place is that your own cells will replicate even a tiny dose.

In any case, it's possible that the CDC is correct and the American Association of Physicians is wrong. But it seems ridiculous to conclude that someone who has read both pages is dumber than someone who has only read one. Why not stop shitposting for 15 minutes and read their page? Or are you afraid of being wrong once in a while?
So we have a potentially deadly virus outbreak. And we have the CDC saying essentially "hey, the data shows that there's a good likelihood that doing this very minor thing that doesn't inconvenience you could save lives." So, if there's a likelihood that it could save lives, I am going to do it.

And you're saying "but hey go look at this page published by a conservative non-profit group that says the data is incorrect!"

I think in this case I'd rather err on the side of caution for everyone's sake and go with the data from the CDC (which IMO is a more legitimate source than a non-profit that has been proven to have political agendas in the past). If the CDC's data is accurate, then maybe I helped save someone's life (or, if they survive COVID, saved them from having other serious health complications in their later life due to having COVID)...and all I had to do is do something that doesn't inconvenience me at all and wear a mask when I go into a store or on public transportation etc.

And if the CDC's data ends up being inaccurate, then guess what it really didn't affect me negatively in any way because all I had to do was put a mask on inside. Such a burden!

Maybe if there weren't people like you around my friends and relatives who died of COVID would still be here.
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