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Old 10-30-2020, 02:02 PM
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Try starting/buying/flipping a business, real estate investing, long term portfolio investing, or creating a product people decide they can't live without.

All of these involve having some non-trivial initial capital. Which you will probably need to work for "someone" to get.
Working for 'someone' isn't a bad thing to help you get your start. (We all technically work for 'someone' - even if you own your business your customers are your 'someone'). I didn't say it was a bad thing, either, but if your life goal is to get a comfy job as an employee (warm body with or without college) then you most likely won't get rich. If a couple thousand dollars to get your first investment property or $500 to open an investment portfolio isn't doable for you, then you have little to no chance to accumulate wealth and your mind frame and/or habits are most likely the reason unless you're disabled in some way. Research and make as many good choices about your life and money as you can, and start as early as you can. Make your goal to spend less than you make even if it means working two jobs and taking the bus to work, skipping parties/dates with friends, moving to a cheaper or better living location, etc... If you have a great idea for a product or service, make a mock-up and pitch it to people that already have money. No one said you don't have to put in some work to get started, but thinking those are the main ways people get rich is preposterous and ill-informed. Start small if you have to, and build on your small successes to develop confidence and pave the way for larger success.

In EQ, you also have to work to get a start on something. Level your toon, farm those gems and crafting supplies, camp those mobs and MQ's, port people, and flip those items in EC. It all will take time and effort, though. This is a game that generally rewards time played and efforts made, and it's a fact that won't change. So, yes, it will be exponentially harder for someone to be plat wealthy if they play 4 hours a week vs 24. And if you make a new alt and 'twink' it every time you get 1,000 plat in the bank, then re-evaluate your spending choices if your goal is to be plat wealthy. The #1 way to make more money for anyone new to the server is just to level to 60 first. Plain and simple. It simply opens more cash making opportunities. From there your profitability varies depending on your class. As an example, Enchanters are strong level 60 solo toons due to their ability to move through dungeons and pick off camps. But in the meantime, be entrepreneurial while leveling, too. If you're killing bears and wolves for the next 5 levels, post an ad on the forums stating so and see if you can match up with someone that is currently leveling their craft and can use the pelts you get. If they pay you more than the vendor, you're already up money and experience! Make like-minded friends along the way, too. The right friends are usually key to your success as well. In game and out.
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Old 10-30-2020, 12:24 PM
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How else do you expect to get rich? In real life, the main ways to get rich are to inherit a fortune, win the lottery, organized crime, or work an extremely high-paying job. If anyone could do it, everyone would be rich. Same goes for EQ.
controlling your expenses plays a big part of it
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Old 10-29-2020, 06:46 PM
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I think I made probably 1-1.5 million selling power levels over a few years, but I don't think I ever had more than like 400K on me at once.
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Old 10-29-2020, 06:49 PM
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I think I made probably 1-1.5 million selling power levels over a few years, but I don't think I ever had more than like 400K on me at once.
Oh yah you are pretty good PL

Heard a lot of good things from you =)
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Old 10-29-2020, 07:18 PM
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I'm bar far and away not the richest person on the server but I have had > 1mil on my banker on multiple occasions and I can tell you one thing is for certain; more money can be made in EC than at any camp.

When I first hit 60 on the ENC I farmed HS and PoM for months saving up enough to buy items that were, at the time for me, exceptionally expensive, like PoM robe. For a long time I would farm for a solid month, then buy something for around 40k, then do it again. This worked for about a year.

Then I transitioned to selling LR in SG which was good when there were buyers but absolutely abysmal when there were not. So I moved to killing elementals which cost me more money than I made and took over a year to really become profitable. None of this was ever as good as just farming BM or something else.

Then at one point or another I got to about 200k and I bought a zheart for 120k, which I then promptly sold for 175. I did this type of thing a few times until I had 400k, which I used to buy a manastone. (I know, right?) Which I promptly sold for 600k. I very rapidly learned that EC is by far the best pp/hr, if you can bring yourself to sit there all damn day. Also, the blue economy I think is overall worse for this now than it was in years past.

TLDR; there are no shortcuts. Find a good camp. Do it forever. Find a good LR or MQ. Do it forever. Or sit in EC forever.

There are no shortcuts in EQ.
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Old 10-29-2020, 07:24 PM
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I'm bar far and away not the richest person on the server but I have had > 1mil on my banker on multiple occasions and I can tell you one thing is for certain; more money can be made in EC than at any camp.

When I first hit 60 on the ENC I farmed HS and PoM for months saving up enough to buy items that were, at the time for me, exceptionally expensive, like PoM robe. For a long time I would farm for a solid month, then buy something for around 40k, then do it again. This worked for about a year.

Then I transitioned to selling LR in SG which was good when there were buyers but absolutely abysmal when there were not. So I moved to killing elementals which cost me more money than I made and took over a year to really become profitable. None of this was ever as good as just farming BM or something else.

Then at one point or another I got to about 200k and I bought a zheart for 120k, which I then promptly sold for 175. I did this type of thing a few times until I had 400k, which I used to buy a manastone. (I know, right?) Which I promptly sold for 600k. I very rapidly learned that EC is by far the best pp/hr, if you can bring yourself to sit there all damn day. Also, the blue economy I think is overall worse for this now than it was in years past.

TLDR; there are no shortcuts. Find a good camp. Do it forever. Find a good LR or MQ. Do it forever. Or sit in EC forever.

There are no shortcuts in EQ.
Pretty good advice!

Guess its all about flipping items that doesn't really have an " exact" value

like some items have a range

so the mindset is : buy low sell high?

Tbh I don't really like this behavior


I remember when I started the server back in 2016, I sold an item for cheap to a noob

for about 60p; I later saw him resell it almost immediately for 100p like wtf?

this happened to me a lot of times on green too but most of the time is not right away

in fact, they must have waited till I was logged off

then Ill be on an alt and see them selling my items higher than sold

So like wtf, I be nice to noobs and my reward is shit money? feels bad man

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Old 10-29-2020, 07:22 PM
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Old 10-29-2020, 07:23 PM
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Yeah...the 1% crowd probably had like 4-10 million in platinum a few years back. I wouldn't be surprised if the top 1% is now like 10-15 million, assuming they've been playing consistently for like a decade.

I remember Nordenwatch got super pissed when one of the GMs announced his character Teleportation he had the most platinum on him of any character, as people started to bug him a lot.
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Yeah...the 1% crowd probably had like 4-10 million in platinum a few years back. I wouldn't be surprised if the top 1% is now like 10-15 million, assuming they've been playing consistently for like a decade.

I remember Nordenwatch got super pissed when one of the GMs announced his character Teleportation he had the most platinum on him of any character, as people started to bug him a lot.
Now that you mentioned Nordenwatch (think he got banned for RMT but he's still pretty rich)

he got a nice guide that I found that shows how to get balls rich

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=144964
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