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Old 09-04-2020, 04:49 PM
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Deception is FAKE NEWS. Journalism is mostly truthful. This is not contestable.
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Old 09-04-2020, 05:37 PM
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Deception is FAKE NEWS. Journalism is mostly truthful. This is not contestable.
A lie by omission is still a lie.

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Old 09-04-2020, 05:30 PM
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Zodium I agree we live in an era of deception. It's been history repeating it self for millenniums.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

Antifa's street-level antagonization of the citizenry during the era of the Weimer Republic where they also held a majority stake in a 5-party parliament is literally what enabled the Nazi party to absorb and consolidate the other 3 parties contesting for seats in parliament where, in a relatively short period of time, the Nazi party went from being a fringe minority party, holding only 5 seats in parliament, to the large majority, and the rest is history.

Antifa didnt "resist" facism, they literally pissed everyone off so much that they created it as a reaction to their bullshit.
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Old 09-04-2020, 07:25 PM
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BlackBellamy I said Journalism not Media.

Through out history that have been individuals who have attempted to give it how it is. Maybe they weren't always allowed or didn't get it right but they did what I described in the OP.

If you're that paranoid that every single human on the planet is plugged into the media machine. Than you'll never understand this topic.
There are a lot of sheeple & they hate being called that but there are also free thinkers.

I am in agreeance that media has stolen the term journalism in an attempt to push their agenda.

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Zodium I agree we live in an era of deception. It's been history repeating it self for millenniums.
Journalism is writing for newspapers, websites, television, radio, magazines, I guess podcasts too, it's all media. The preparation and delivery of so-called news is a business. You can call yourself a crusader for truth, the paladin of journalism, the Investigative one, but then you write your big expose on Harvey but they sit on it for months and then kill it because someone upstairs knows Harvey. So you can re-write or shop around.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say journalism is separate from media. One is a process within the other.

You might be thinking of bards.
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Old 09-05-2020, 12:11 AM
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Journalism is writing for newspapers, websites, television, radio, magazines, I guess podcasts too, it's all media. The preparation and delivery of so-called news is a business. You can call yourself a crusader for truth, the paladin of journalism, the Investigative one, but then you write your big expose on Harvey but they sit on it for months and then kill it because someone upstairs knows Harvey. So you can re-write or shop around.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say journalism is separate from media. One is a process within the other.

You might be thinking of bards.
Your example of why it's bad (harvey was powerful) is an anecdote though. It says nothing about the fact that *different* outlets offer *different* ratios of fact to spin. It's worth figuring out which are more, or less, reliable.

I mean when you have clear cut video of an event happening, and one outlet summarizes essentially what actually happened based on the available video evidence (albeit with their own biased language of course) and another reports the exact opposite despite the video being a control which doesn't change for anyone, it doesn't take much to figure out who is being more honest in that instance. Media is shit broadly, but not all shit is created equal.
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Old 09-04-2020, 05:28 PM
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99% of the people talking in the media are just saying what their bosses want them to say. That goes for all the major broadcasters. If tomorrow CNN told Don Lemon to denounce Joe Biden as a racist, he would do it.

The only way to get solid information anymore is to do the research yourself, or look at all the information being presented and try to decipher what the truth is.

For the people saying that capitalism incentivizes news companies to present exciting information over truthful information; please consider communist North Korea’s state run media. At least with the news in capitalism, you can change the channel.
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Old 09-04-2020, 05:33 PM
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Gwaihir why cant you find a cool avatar?

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Old 09-04-2020, 05:34 PM
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Gwaihir why cant you find a cool avatar?

Look how great topgunbens is
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Old 09-05-2020, 01:09 PM
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If the history of the barbary slave trade by the ottomans\moors was taught alongside the atlantic slave trade in highschool and undergrad world history courses, the world would be a much saner place.

By blm logic, I should be allowed to go to turkey\algeria and take their shit and burn everything down. Or alternatively, I could realize that nobody in the history of the world doesn't have dirty hands when it comes to barbarism, and burning everything down in the present because you're ignorant of so much of what came before you is much worse than the original sin you're so against.
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