What Happened To Journalism?

[douglas1999]

Zodium's posts are specifically designed to be so impenetrably convoluted you can't ever discern a point. I like him though

[JurisDictum]

they're good informative posts that teach vocabulary

i love him

he should be on an estate somewhere writing only to me while I pick and choose which of you go to which front. You'd love it; you would have the chance to commit murder.

[douglas1999]

Well that sounds insane.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that sounds insane.

Might sound it from here but at least the "spit hoods" would be fabric. not plastic garbage bags.

[Luigi]

I cant read any big posts by juris either, his short posts are usually worth reading.

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Journalism Use to be....

Someone takes a certain idea and they present the facts and allow the reader to determine how they feel about a given subject. Allowing the reader to determine their own view based on the facts presented. Across Party lines and across political lines. They present the facts in an honest and straight forward manner. Then people develop their own opinion based on what they see. Being a free thinker and a level headed approach.

I would have replied earlier, being a consummate fan of 'journalism' and working in a parent field, however I insinuated in a previous post that a fictitious person named Boqueesha Jefferson couldn't spell her own name and was given a vacation because people make assumptions about skin color based on people's names. That's racist I think. I guess it wasn't understood that "Boqueesha" was most likely white and Jewish.

What is with this Dolezaling? Is it like Lou Reed explained just bored white people trying to stir up some drama and excitement in their lives?

Ahhh, journalism. Another lie. When you write "Journalism Use to be...." you are repeating Journalism Propaganda. That's because Paley and Cronkite and others said it over and over with gravitas. They wanted to believe maybe, or they were just lying cynics, doesn't matter. Think of this image; the breathless newspapermen running to the telephone bank to get their story to the editors who yell hold the presses out their office door because the story has to be told.

That never happens except in old Hollywood movies. Or on TV shows, or in self-serving accounts written about themselves.

It's just like the Nazis. When you think about the Nazis you picture the Nuremberg Rally, with all those people in rows and the flags, and then during the war rows of tanks driving on and shooting stuff and stormtroopers piling out of halftracks with machineguns. But that's because you're watching clips from Triumph Of The Will and other propaganda and training films they made themselves. It's the only record out there so it becomes reality. In truth the Germans had very few tanks, their infantry walked through the mud as their artillery was pulled by horses. They were just like any other army. They only did good in the beginning because they were fighting reservists without radios, and after that they were just getting their asses kicked for like 3 years straight and the only reason it took so long is because there was a lot of Germans to grind through. But the Hitler War Machine mystique lives on.

The newspaper was never an organ of disseminating information. First and foremost the newspaper, and later radio and television were businesses that generate revenue through direct sales and advertising. The copy is there to accomplish the goal. It literally does not matter what you write as long as people continue to buy and watch. There is no real sanction. There is no authority or standards or anything. If anyone sues then you have them sign something that tells them to cash the check and shut the fuck up and that's it. Otherwise you cry First Amendment and if you know anything about the US libel laws then you know that once your name has appeared in the media then any subsequent mentions can just be full of slander because hey you're now a limited-purpose public figure.

Our media has flat out lied in order to start wars because wars are great news and great news sells a lot of advertising.

The stuff you write, the stuff I quote above, that's a great ideal. That would be awesome if that was actually happening. Oh yeah, I mean there are some outlets that profess 'nothing but the news' but in the end they are staffed by people who have opinions and absolutely zero consequences for lying their asses off. They can get a new twitter handle and a new domain name if the shame becomes too great and it's like nothing has ever happened.

There is no journalism. Only Zuul and manipulation.

[zodium]

people always have been the foolish victims of deception and self-deception in politics, and they always will be until they have learnt to seek out the interests of some class or other behind all moral, religious, political and social phrases, declarations and promises.

[Baler]

BlackBellamy I said Journalism not Media.

Through out history that have been individuals who have attempted to give it how it is. Maybe they weren't always allowed or didn't get it right but they did what I described in the OP.

If you're that paranoid that every single human on the planet is plugged into the media machine. Than you'll never understand this topic.
There are a lot of sheeple & they hate being called that but there are also free thinkers.

I am in agreeance that media has stolen the term journalism in an attempt to push their agenda.

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Zodium I agree we live in an era of deception. It's been history repeating it self for millenniums.

[PieOats]

Deception is FAKE NEWS. Journalism is mostly truthful. This is not contestable.

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people always have been the foolish victims of deception and self-deception in politics, and they always will be until they have learnt to seek out the interests of some class or other behind all moral, religious, political and social phrases, declarations and promises.

There's always going to be some sort of power behind the curtain developing and maintaining a system of order and "morality" to govern the affairs of men. Idealizing a fantasy that removing the vase in which the water retains it's shape, or is somehow going to facilitate the water self-organizing to take on a more utopic shape is asinine.

"Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time of Warre, where every man is Enemy to every man; the same is consequent to the time, wherein men live without other security, than what their own strength, and their own invention shall furnish them withall. In such condition, there is no place for Industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain; and consequently no Culture of the Earth; no Navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by Sea; no commodious Building; no Instruments of moving, and removing such things as require much force; no Knowledge of the face of the Earth; no account of Time; no Arts; no Letters; no Society; and which is worst of all, continuall feare, and danger of violent death; And the life of man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish, and short."