Boxing is Rampant on Green because of the TLP Playerbase

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by Kief [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I literally PL'd a whole group for the 12 hours I was camping it (you included THE NEXT DAY)

You didn't PL shit, dumbass.
We literally fucking wrecked that camp. In what world does a Level 42 Cleric and Level 44 Enchanter need help killing Dhamp? Is this something you concocted in your mind to convince yourself that you were more worthy of loot than others?

Originally Posted by Kief [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jai and I HAVE been box tested. Menden knows we are not boxing and have been reported several times.

This doesn't mean anything. Why do you think people constantly report you, dude? You don't think that's a little fucking weird? It's never happened to me or anyone I know. Asking who ever is in the room with you to hop behind a keyboard whenever you get into trouble doesn't mean you aren't 2-boxing.

How come Jaiger hasn't come here to speak on his behalf? Since he's a real person? Seems a bit odd. If someone accused me of being a box and I wasn't, I would damn sure want to defend myself. I guess you probably didn't think that far into the scam though, huh? Psychopaths tend to be short-sighted and impulsive, so I'm not surprised.

Originally Posted by Kief [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 - We grouped in Guk for maybe 5 minutes. But you were extremely nice to me and even offered to rez since (surprise Jaiger wasn't around).

We grouped until I realized what you were doing, at which I point I typed /quit as fast as I could, genuinely hoping I wouldn't get banned for inadvertently power-leveling your characters (how many was there? It wasn't just Jaiger, I do know that).

Originally Posted by Kief [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you were extremely nice to me

Anyone who encounters me in-game knows I'm one of the nicest people on the server UNTIL someone pisses me off. It's hard to not strongly dislike someone who knowingly breaks every rule in the book without impunity. Basically completely fucking over every player who actually plays by the rules.

Originally Posted by Kief [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the staff knows me and what i've done for the community

This statement actually re-affirms why players in the game are actually terrified to report you. People genuinely think that the reason you haven't gotten in trouble is because .....

[wtfisthis]

RecondoJoe...Seek help

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[cd288]

Originally Posted by RecondoJoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't PL shit, dumbass.
We literally fucking wrecked that camp. In what world does a Level 42 Cleric and Level 44 Enchanter need help killing Dhamp? Is this something you concocted in your mind to convince yourself that you were more worthy of loot than others?



This doesn't mean anything. Why do you think people constantly report you, dude? You don't think that's a little fucking weird? It's never happened to me or anyone I know. Asking who ever is in the room with you to hop behind a keyboard whenever you get into trouble doesn't mean you aren't 2-boxing.

How come Jaiger hasn't come here to speak on his behalf? Since he's a real person? Seems a bit odd. If someone accused me of being a box and I wasn't, I would damn sure want to defend myself. I guess you probably didn't think that far into the scam though, huh? Psychopaths tend to be short-sighted and impulsive, so I'm not surprised.



We grouped until I realized what you were doing, at which I point I typed /quit as fast as I could, genuinely hoping I wouldn't get banned for inadvertently power-leveling your characters (how many was there? It wasn't just Jaiger, I do know that).




Anyone who encounters me in-game knows I'm one of the nicest people on the server UNTIL someone pisses me off. It's hard to not strongly dislike someone who knowingly breaks every rule in the book without impunity. Basically completely fucking over every player who actually plays by the rules.



This statement actually re-affirms why players in the game are actually terrified to report you. People genuinely think that the reason you haven't gotten in trouble is because .....

I think I'm changing my mind. If Menden has tested him and the other character and they passed, then he isn't boxing. Saying that it means nothing is essentially implying that the staff know he is boxing and are looking the other way on it. That's a pretty easy way to get banned for bashing the staff.

[Jeffari]

Kief wins!!

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I'm changing my mind. If Menden has tested him and the other character and they passed, then he isn't boxing. Saying that it means nothing is essentially implying that the staff know he is boxing and are looking the other way on it. That's a pretty easy way to get banned for bashing the staff.

I don't suspect him of 2-boxing. I know he 2-boxed. Like he said, and I said, we both grouped together extremely briefly, and it's pretty obvious that at the time, the reason I left was because I genuinely believed he was 2-boxing.

This was not an instance where I saw a group of players and thought "oh, 2-boxing." This was an instance where a player in the game is asking me to move closer so he can heal me with his cleric. The Cleric actually died because he was so focused on playing Keeth at one point.

I never called Menden a liar. I don't even know him. Either way it really doesn't matter. This is the most bizarre mentality I've ever seen. This is like saying a Needle Junkie has never used drugs because he passed his last two piss tests.

And you people wonder why no one ever calls anyone out. Literally everyone is scared to do it because anytime someone does, this is what happens: People attack them. People threaten to have them banned. Now imagine if you accused someone in-game, who was in the next camp over of 2-boxing and a GM did show up and the person passed the 2-box test (which again, is not hard to do -- pay close attention to the comments and how many people have beaten one before). Now you're going to be stuck dealing with actual in-game repercussions when all you tried to do was the right thing.

In closing, ask yourself: why does this same player have so many people on the server convinced that he is boxing? If he has a legitimate reason, I'm sure we would all love to hear it. I know for a fact if I wasn't 2 boxing and people kept accusing me of it, I would start to question what I'm doing that makes everyone think this, and how can I prove them wrong?

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by RecondoJoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't suspect him of 2-boxing. I know he 2-boxed. Like he said, and I said, we both grouped together extremely briefly, and it's pretty obvious that at the time, the reason I left was because I genuinely believed he was 2-boxing.

This was not an instance where I saw a group of players and thought "oh, 2-boxing." This was an instance where a player in the game is asking me to move closer so he can heal me with his cleric. The Cleric actually died because he was so focused on playing Keeth at one point.

I never called Menden a liar. I don't even know him. Either way it really doesn't matter. This is the most bizarre mentality I've ever seen. This is like saying a Needle Junkie has never used drugs because he passed his last two piss tests.

And you people wonder why no one ever calls anyone out. Literally everyone is scared to do it because anytime someone does, this is what happens: People attack them. People threaten to have them banned. Now imagine if you accused someone in-game, who was in the next camp over of 2-boxing and a GM did show up and the person passed the 2-box test (which again, is not hard to do -- pay close attention to the comments and how many people have beaten one before). Now you're going to be stuck dealing with actual in-game repercussions when all you tried to do was the right thing.

In closing, ask yourself: why does this same player have so many people on the server convinced that he is boxing? If he has a legitimate reason, I'm sure we would all love to hear it. I know for a fact if I wasn't 2 boxing and people kept accusing me of it, I would start to question what I'm doing that makes everyone think this, and how can I prove them wrong?

Also, since there's no edit:

One of the first things that was weird to me when I joined that group was realizing that it already had a Cleric in it. How many groups do you know who want 2 Clerics to farm cash crops? I wasn't sure why at first obviously. We'll just say that only one of those Clerics was actually able to move around and help kill things, while the other sat in the same spot and required the group to move closer to him for heals.

[Terrok]

This reminds me of the time I needed to get some dental work done, and I wasn’t going to be able to drive home afterwards. So my friend said he would drive me. Well his wife was running late because of a meeting running late and his daughter was sick to his stomach and had to make sure they were ok before he left. So on the way to the dentist I noticed he was going 3 mph over the speed limit to try and make sure I made my appointment on time. I break out my cell phone and record him speeding and got good shots of his face. The next day I reported him to the police for breaking the law. Because if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by RecondoJoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't suspect him of 2-boxing. I know he 2-boxed. Like he said, and I said, we both grouped together extremely briefly, and it's pretty obvious that at the time, the reason I left was because I genuinely believed he was 2-boxing.

This was not an instance where I saw a group of players and thought "oh, 2-boxing." This was an instance where a player in the game is asking me to move closer so he can heal me with his cleric. The Cleric actually died because he was so focused on playing Keeth at one point.

I never called Menden a liar. I don't even know him. Either way it really doesn't matter. This is the most bizarre mentality I've ever seen. This is like saying a Needle Junkie has never used drugs because he passed his last two piss tests.

And you people wonder why no one ever calls anyone out. Literally everyone is scared to do it because anytime someone does, this is what happens: People attack them. People threaten to have them banned. Now imagine if you accused someone in-game, who was in the next camp over of 2-boxing and a GM did show up and the person passed the 2-box test (which again, is not hard to do -- pay close attention to the comments and how many people have beaten one before). Now you're going to be stuck dealing with actual in-game repercussions when all you tried to do was the right thing.

In closing, ask yourself: why does this same player have so many people on the server convinced that he is boxing? If he has a legitimate reason, I'm sure we would all love to hear it. I know for a fact if I wasn't 2 boxing and people kept accusing me of it, I would start to question what I'm doing that makes everyone think this, and how can I prove them wrong?

Not sure what I’m missing in that post but there don’t appear to be any comments about how to pass a two box test. The only thing that discusses getting away with boxing is talking about how people don’t get reported if they’re minding their own business in out of the way areas.

[Terrok]

Originally Posted by RecondoJoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't PL shit, dumbass.
We literally fucking wrecked that camp. In what world does a Level 42 Cleric and Level 44 Enchanter need help killing Dhamp? Is this something you concocted in your mind to convince yourself that you were more worthy of loot than others?



This doesn't mean anything. Why do you think people constantly report you, dude? You don't think that's a little fucking weird? It's never happened to me or anyone I know. Asking who ever is in the room with you to hop behind a keyboard whenever you get into trouble doesn't mean you aren't 2-boxing.

How come Jaiger hasn't come here to speak on his behalf? Since he's a real person? Seems a bit odd. If someone accused me of being a box and I wasn't, I would damn sure want to defend myself. I guess you probably didn't think that far into the scam though, huh? Psychopaths tend to be short-sighted and impulsive, so I'm not surprised.



We grouped until I realized what you were doing, at which I point I typed /quit as fast as I could, genuinely hoping I wouldn't get banned for inadvertently power-leveling your characters (how many was there? It wasn't just Jaiger, I do know that).




Anyone who encounters me in-game knows I'm one of the nicest people on the server UNTIL someone pisses me off. It's hard to not strongly dislike someone who knowingly breaks every rule in the book without impunity. Basically completely fucking over every player who actually plays by the rules.



This statement actually re-affirms why players in the game are actually terrified to report you. People genuinely think that the reason you haven't gotten in trouble is because .....

People actually killed people because they thought they where truly witches. how crazy where the people who believed in witches and then killed people because of that belief.

What i mean to say, is people believe what they want to, why waste your time trying to change their mind. I'm sure the witches who knew they where going to die tried their hardest. But you can't beat their logic.

[greenmachine]

RecondoJoe is full of shit. I have grouped with Keeth and Jaiger a bunch they're super chill dudes. There are definitely lower levels in their groups a lot. I've had alts join their groups, because they're nice enough to let any of their friends who are 34+ come hang out and get xp wherever they're camping stuff for the conversation and to help out. The "afk" people are usually lower level people ducking in corners trying not to aggro anything and die in dangerous parts of guk. Really surprised to see their names being thrown around on here in a negative light, I've always seen them be respectful and helpful to people.

Tham - 49 Bard
Havarti - 47 Enchanter