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Old 04-16-2020, 12:46 PM
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I love how whenever anyone says something reasonable here, like "some classes have massively harder epics which require belonging to the server's top raid guild ... and some can be bought for 20k in EC ... it might be better if they harder ones weren't quite so hard" ...

... and it somehow always gets attacked with a variation of "you're a crybaby, stop asking for handouts".
I take the wide stance of the easy epics should be rarer. There is nothing epic about my 52 monk in crystalline silk armor wielding celestial fists.
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:35 PM
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Loramin just wants to be ur friend.
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:36 PM
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Arguably the mage E peeek is very much 'cooler' then the rogue epic and the rogue epic is great for a class that could use a buff while mages, didn't need a buff at all

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neither are absolutely neccissary to enjoy this game i feel real bad xude for anyone that 'needs' their epic, that is like, needing bixie parts man (btw i am farming them so i can sell them later or make bixie pies)
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:51 PM
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neither are absolutely neccissary to enjoy this game i feel real bad xude for anyone that 'needs' their epic, that is like, needing bixie parts man (btw i am farming them so i can sell them later or make bixie pies)
You've missed the point entirely. The point was never that epics were necessary: that's your straw man. As an aside though: c'mon. People like playing their characters and getting epics: it's a part of EQ, and it's insanely hard for certain classes. This isn't rocket science ... it's a game.

But the real point is, someone made a comment about the game ... and again, I think it's hard to argue it wasn't a completely rational and logical comment. And you attacked the person for a perceived moral failing (of wanting welfare pixels). It's not at all atypical here, but it just annoys me because attacking people personally, when they're trying to talk about the game, only lowers the level of dialogue for everyone. It's like we've gone back to elementary school where "your mom is fat" is a legitimate retort.
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Old 04-16-2020, 01:05 PM
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You've missed the point entirely. The point was never that epics were necessary: that's your straw man. As an aside though: c'mon. People like playing their characters and getting epics: it's a part of EQ, and it's insanely hard for certain classes. This isn't rocket science ... it's a game.

But the real point is, someone made a comment about the game ... and again, I think it's hard to argue it wasn't a completely rational and logical comment. And you attacked the person for a perceived moral failing (of wanting welfare pixels). It's not at all atypical here, but it just annoys me because attacking people personally, when they're trying to talk about the game, only lowers the level of dialogue for everyone. It's like we've gone back to elementary school where "your mom is fat" is a legitimate retort.
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I take the wide stance of the easy epics should be rarer. There is nothing epic about my 52 monk in crystalline silk armor wielding celestial fists.
Xude. These are "Epics" not rusty short swords. I stand by Jimjam. There is nothing epic about:

1. Instancing them
2. Adding gnoll fang quests for them
3. Giving them to anyone who is willing to farm 30,000 light stones


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The OP is crying salty tears about a GAME, just like u illustrated. Part of this game is there are some really cool, unique, and rare items.

There are not enough artifact rarity items, and arguably there should only be like 3 or 4 epics on any server, 1 should drop a year, that would make having an epic. REALLY cool and not just a tedious raid DKP meter progression [x]

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[x] Never got an epic, didn't kill myself over never getting an epic, I got 99 better reasons to self harm

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What I really don't appreciate is people posting RnF threads into the general forums yelling at people 'because they dont have their epic yet' as if it is some how my fault.

I never gatekeeped an epic, and I am not a surgeon I can't magically cosmetically give someone their frakkin epic, its not my Innoruuk be damned fault and I don't want to be yelled at because they are 'rare'. My solution isn't to hand them out like candy and not rare anymore and make the game really dumb and like wow. Where every class has like a 5 second invis but its really fair because it's terrible, and for everyone, everyone can do it. !

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The mentality of OP cheapens the preciousness of life. It is a grave sin, go read the bible about it. It is called Lust, Avarice, Jealously.
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Old 04-16-2020, 01:08 PM
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1. Instancing them
2. Adding gnoll fang quests for them
3. Giving them to anyone who is willing to farm 30,000 light stones
Do you even understand the concept of a "straw man"? It's when I make a valid argument, and you ... have nothing. So, since you can't argue with what I actually said, you pretend I said something else, something you can argue with.

No one said any of these things, so the fact that you need to "argue with yourself" to make it seem like your personal attacks were legit ... to me that just demonstrates have nothing to respond with to what people have actually written.
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Old 04-16-2020, 01:11 PM
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Do you even understand the concept of a "straw man"? It's when I make a valid argument, and you ... have nothing. So, since you can't argue with what I actually said, you pretend I said something else, something you can argue with.

No one said any of these things, so the fact that you need to "argue with yourself" to make it seem like your personal attacks were legit ... to me that just demonstrates have nothing to respond with to what people have actually written.
Just because u call it a straw man does not make it a strong man, my xude. Go polar bear form ur way into heaven full of mage epics on Takp, I think it is time for you to ascend, you obviously are a saint.

I'm not even going to argue your dumb straw man logic bullshit because it is a waste of time and does not affect me. You are mad clearly, so is OP. If my posts make you mad, seek truth.

Or /ignore me and descend into the depths of hell. there are leviathans waiting 4u there ) they hold the key to mage epics.

see ya lol
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Old 04-16-2020, 03:13 PM
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But the real point is, someone made a comment about the game ... and again, I think it's hard to argue it wasn't a completely rational and logical comment. And you attacked the person for a perceived moral failing (of wanting welfare pixels). It's not at all atypical here, but it just annoys me because attacking people personally, when they're trying to talk about the game, only lowers the level of dialogue for everyone. It's like we've gone back to elementary school where "your mom is fat" is a legitimate retort.
Speaking reasonably I agree, some epics being harder than others is not very logical which games try to be these days and might account for why they are not interesting. The guy that posted the message might not have meant anything by it at all and was just making an observation then moving on with life. That, however, does not and has never stopped or will stop the response he got. It happens to me, it happens to you, it happens to us all at some point. Someone is going to interpret it as that guy not understanding things and think he was asking for a hand out, a change or well fair pixels. Stray observations are tricky to post.

All that being said, Loramin has a fat mom. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

p/s: It's also boring, uncool, retarded, doofus and anything else you can slap on it to explain something like this. Get in line for elf social security at Felwite you old timer.
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:37 PM
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Calling a mage without their epic a loser is like emasculating a man for not having a 10ft peener. when they already got 7ft
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Old 04-16-2020, 01:17 PM
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Anyway you and OP are arguing they 'shouldn't be rare or hard anymore'

This is not classic and not a good custom change.

There is no straw male in saying 'hey epics should stay rare' to that argument, and then illustrating 'here's why'.

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