Chanter charming

[zillabunny]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ain't none yet

I'd take a stab at it after I'm done leveling rogue

Trick would be breaking in, and not getting a charm break while fighting efreeti. Prob need puppet strings to handle this scenario. I haven't had much luck interrupting him with mezzes, even when tashed. Prob need the Sol Ro tash for this?

His room is not a friggin joke

I'm not sure if you saw the original post but it was that "untwinked" enchanters can do this...

once we start talking puppet strings wouldn't we be in twinked territory?

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by zillabunny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure if you saw the original post but it was that "untwinked" enchanters can do this...

once we start talking puppet strings wouldn't we be in twinked territory?

Go do it without puppet strings and record the evidence.

I think this is going to be a little harder than you think, but possibly doable.

[Wallicker]

How many mana sieves does it take to run efreeti dry?

[derpcake2]

Originally Posted by Wallicker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many mana sieves does it take to run efreeti dry?

He can cast at least 5 ice comets, so 2k+ manapool.

Manasieve takes about 300 at 50, so you are looking at at least 7 casts.

Manasieve has an 11 second recast (3 sec cast + 8 sec cooldown), so you'd be looking at 77 seconds of casting nothing besides sieve. In practice it would be more due to his manaregen.

Djarn is a lvl 50 mob, doubles for 140. If he does more then 77 dps to your pet, the pet would be dead in the 77 seconds it takes you to manasieve the mob.

It is obviously far better to haste and arm the pet, and just burn Djarn while timing stuns.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by derpcake2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He can cast at least 5 ice comets, so 2k+ manapool.

Manasieve takes about 300 at 50, so you are looking at at least 7 casts.

Manasieve has an 11 second recast (3 sec cast + 8 sec cooldown), so you'd be looking at 77 seconds of casting nothing besides sieve. In practice it would be more due to his manaregen.

Djarn is a lvl 50 mob, doubles for 140. If he does more then 77 dps to your pet, the pet would be dead in the 77 seconds it takes you to manasieve the mob.

It is obviously far better to haste and arm the pet, and just burn Djarn while timing stuns.

Mana sieve causes massive threat, have fun with that spell on him

[Wallicker]

Originally Posted by derpcake2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He can cast at least 5 ice comets, so 2k+ manapool.

Manasieve takes about 300 at 50, so you are looking at at least 7 casts.

Manasieve has an 11 second recast (3 sec cast + 8 sec cooldown), so you'd be looking at 77 seconds of casting nothing besides sieve. In practice it would be more due to his manaregen.

Djarn is a lvl 50 mob, doubles for 140. If he does more then 77 dps to your pet, the pet would be dead in the 77 seconds it takes you to manasieve the mob.

It is obviously far better to haste and arm the pet, and just burn Djarn while timing stuns.

Not saying that’s what I’d do I was just curious, although one dazzle gives you enough time to completely drain him... 11 sieves is pretty mana taxing on the caster in classic gear. Something worth testing. I stated I would be using a lvl 42 lava guardian with that 6k hp pool and mean DS to take him out.

[Fazlazen]

the guy claiming to mow through yellows on an enchanter also claimed he can solo efreeti as a 50 bard, so let's take everything he says with a grain of salt!

[Wallicker]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the guy claiming to mow through yellows on an enchanter also claimed he can solo efreeti as a 50 bard, so let's take everything he says with a grain of salt!

Won’t even be remotely possible until bards get their new charm.

[derpcake2]

If you want to manasieve Djarn in order to kill it, you don't have the slightest clue.

That's really stupid given that his main spell has a 6.3 second cast time, which combines well with a properly timed AE stun for 10+ seconds of him doing nothing.

[bum3]

Let me give you a point of view from a Cleric whose wife is a pretty damn good enchanter and who has grouped with many other enchanters since sometimes during the night when you need group mates to fill a group there are only druids, ench, and shamans lfg and on my many alts.

A- My wife charms mostly low blues and light blues. Her charm breaks in spurts. She'll hold on to it for 5-10 mobs without a break. But then it will break 3-5x in a row, leaving her OOM. She also CC's (one of the few who do). The charm seems to break almost every time 3+ mobs are pulled, without fail.
B- Most enchanters want to be mages. They don't want to CC/buffbuff, stating they can either CC/buff or charm, that they don't have enough mana for both. Which is true. This isn't blue and people aren't twinked out with a extra 150cha or extra 200+hp.
C- When grouping on my alt.. most enchanters who charm die a lot. Because breaking during a fight hurts and if group cleric doesn't stun it immediately ench will die to the hasted/buffed pet in 3 rounds of attack. Specially with rogue mobs able to front backstab sometimes, for some reason.
D- Other people in group exacerbate this issue because they tell the ench to charm above all else even to point of no CC... but then they don't support charm breaks. They even blame ench for wipes because ench died to it's own charm after the X class dotted it on accident and ench couldn't fast mez and recharm it. A fully buffed and hasted pet who then moves to healer will wipe a group fast during a multiple pull.

So while enchanters are super powerful when charming, they can be more of a hindrance than a boon sometimes. I've noticed that after 40 this is less of an issue since mobs seem to level out with hp/dmg and the ench keeps growing.