Camp Etiquette

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Nachtsuchen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Had a very interesting repeated encounter here on Green in Blackburrow tonight. My group and I formed on the Bridge and made the general area a camp, as it was just us in that area (surprising I know, but it was in the dead of night). For two hours, more and more folks came and we invited them to the group until we had room for two more. We camped the area uncontested, as it was just us, but then:

The first individual who didn't want to join our group said they were "Semi-AFK" as their reason for declining. They then started pulling mobs as they spawned at the fringe area of our camping area. I told them they were welcome to join the group and remain "Semi-AFK" so that we'd at least share experience and not have to wrestle over each other for pulls. He declined and left the area after he pulled a few more.

The second individual came and, just as we were pulling a mob, rushed in and started attacking it. When we finished killing it, they gave a "..." response and acted angry and upset; I informed them they were in the middle of our camp and that was a mob in our camp we were killing. They got extremely exclamatory, claiming we "can't just make a camp wherever we feel like" and told them the area was a valid enough camp and was prior uncontested for hours before, and even fine by other people in other camps in the zone (and those soloing mobs in between camping areas). They still angrily rebuked and, when I offered them an invite, they said they didn't want to join the group because they're...at work..? I told them they're still welcome to join the group and be "Semi-AFK" to do what they'd like, for the same reasons as before, but they went into a circular argument about camp lines and cited to me that I should read the rules. They ran off somewhere and weren't seen again afterwards.

The third was someone who "had lunch in 15" and, when I told them they'd be fine to join and leave when they wanted and be as active as they felt, they turned it down and quietly kept pulling mobs from our questing area. They left before 15 minutes.

What the hell is up with people? Literally bending over backwards, offering people a spot in a group to share experience and take turns looting Gnoll Fangs, and they'd rather have extremely obtuse reasons for avoiding groups so they can fight a pre-established camp over spawns, killing mobs very seldom and get the same amount of fangs but without having to share fangs per-kill. Blows my mind.

I will always be willing to split a camp. I will always be willing to invite people despite the divide in experience and loot. I will always be willing to accommodate people's situations for in a group. What boils my blood is, when this is all said and done, people still outright refuse and would rather cause problems for everyone for their own selfish interest. My two cents on camp etiquette? If you're going into an area traditionally populated by a majority of groups, but don't want to group, you don't belong there. If you go to Crushbone or Blackburrow or wherever, you better be interested in grouping; there's too many people to be too selfish. Obviously I don't expect people share the same mindset, but it still irks me how many people refuse to participate in the MULTIPLAYER aspect of an MMO.

You should have asked to talk to their manager.

[supermonk]

couple entitled folks got mad at me for single camping the lone static brigand at the top of the hill near the WK bandit camp. they felt entitled to that mob because it gave them a lot of experience and that i'm KSing the mob. some nerd guild leader i shall not name starting calling me a jerk because he didn't agree that i'm allowed to camp a single mob in an outdoor zone.

[Baler]

incite them to do something wrong
/clear your chat
start talking politely to them
record them breaking the rules
petition them on the forums with the video

[Cuktus]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

incite them to do something wrong
/clear your chat
start talking politely to them
record them breaking the rules
petition them on the forums with the video

Entrapment needs to be added to the PnP.....

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Cuktus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Entrapment needs to be added to the PnP.....

The logs would tell the real story. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Cuktus]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The logs would tell the real story. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So... Double entrapment?

[Lulz Sect]

if im holding down a camp
i mean fine take a couple spawns
but dont try to take ALL of it from me in FTE wars
come on now

[Droxx]

You and your friend have a business. It only takes two people to run and nets you each $3 per day.

Someone comes along and sees that you have a business going. They apply. You, not wanting to be rude, accept them to your business, despite not needing them. Also not wanting to be rude, you give them an equal share. You all now make $2 per day.

Three more people come along and want to get in on the business. Again, you don't want to be rude, so you accept them and give them an equal share, too.

You all now make $1 per day. You and your friend could have been making $3 per day each, but you didn't want to be rude. Your business goes bankrupt because it isn't worth the time anymore.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Droxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You and your friend have a business. It only takes two people to run and nets you each $3 per day.

Someone comes along and sees that you have a business going. They apply. You, not wanting to be rude, accept them to your business, despite not needing them. Also not wanting to be rude, you give them an equal share. You all now make $2 per day.

Three more people come along and want to get in on the business. Again, you don't want to be rude, so you accept them and give them an equal share, too.

You all now make $1 per day. You and your friend could have been making $3 per day each, but you didn't want to be rude. Your business goes bankrupt because it isn't worth the time anymore.

Yeah because you know, the revenue of a business you’re running is totally analogous to wanting to monopolize content and min/max your EXP in a 20 year old video game to other peoples’ detriment...

-_-

[Polixa]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah because you know, the revenue of a business you’re running is totally analogous to wanting to monopolize content and min/max your EXP in a 20 year old video game to other peoples’ detriment...

-_-

The analogy makes perfect sense to me, in fact it is excellent. Can't see why it should be lost on you.