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Old 06-20-2019, 06:59 PM
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People aren't toxic, but behavior can be.

And when people behave in a toxic manner it reveals pain and frustration from other aspects of their life.

If you engage in toxic behavior, take a step back and reflect. Find the origin of your pain (likely repetitive judgment or tasks left undone or both) and improve yourself.

If someone else engages in toxic behavior, don't add to the unpleasantness, instead recognize they are in pain and don't seek to exacerbate it.
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Old 06-22-2019, 11:40 PM
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Old 06-23-2019, 01:45 PM
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Any time I see the phrase "gaslighting" I know to ignore anything else that person says.
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Old 06-23-2019, 02:38 PM
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Any time I see the phrase "gaslighting" I know to ignore anything else that person says.
whats that, lighting your farts on fire?
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Old 06-23-2019, 02:39 PM
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As far as I can tell, it means disagreeing with someone.
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Old 06-24-2019, 12:45 AM
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As far as I can tell, it means disagreeing with someone.
To knowingly and repeatedly lie until other people believe lie. I don't think it's gaslighting if the person legit believes what they are saying, even if it's incorrect. I think actual gaslighting is more about intent to deceive.

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Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's belief.
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Old 06-24-2019, 01:32 AM
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To knowingly and repeatedly lie until other people believe lie. I don't think it's gaslighting if the person legit believes what they are saying, even if it's incorrect. I think actual gaslighting is more about intent to deceive.

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ok now try to prove intent. you can't.

sorry for disagreeing
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Old 06-24-2019, 03:37 AM
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ok now try to prove intent. you can't.

sorry for disagreeing
It's probably difficult or impossible to prove without a doubt. But in the cases where someone is presented with irrefutable evidence but continues the lie, one possibility is gaslighting (or some type of mental illness).

Or, when people admit their lie and intent after the fact.

But also, I'm not here to debate the details, I was just defining it, since people seem rather confused about something that can be clarified with a 5-second search.
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Old 06-24-2019, 02:55 PM
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It's probably difficult or impossible to prove without a doubt. But in the cases where someone is presented with irrefutable evidence but continues the lie, one possibility is gaslighting (or some type of mental illness).

Or, when people admit their lie and intent after the fact.

But also, I'm not here to debate the details, I was just defining it, since people seem rather confused about something that can be clarified with a 5-second search.
let's just agree to disagree
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Old 06-23-2019, 03:57 PM
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I don't even understand the etymology of the phrase let alone the intricacies of the definition.
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