p99 has the worst raid scene of any game i have ever played and im quitting over it

[mattydef]

Of all times to drop two green scales...why couldn't it be two dragon bone bracelets?

[Oleris]

Originally Posted by mattydef [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of all times to drop two green scales...why couldn't it be two dragon bone bracelets?

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[ReadOnly]

BG leadership failed you hard OP. Sorry about that.

[Grimmskld]

I'm going to come in here and defend our OP, as well as our guild. I usually stay out of RnF, but I sympathize with Folgorth.

The druid in question didn't understand the infraction and thought he was doing a good thing for his guildmates! At the time, we didnt realize he was camped out past the ZL, or else we would have called a concede right away, thus avoiding any issues with other guilds.

And in reference to the Druid Fear tracker comment, we absolutely do NOT use our fear trackers to gain FTE! That whole ordeal happened once, and both druids were getting agro while trying to get out of the zone. Our guild isn't shady and always press to our members to abide by each and every server rule, 100%!

[Kluwen2]

Originally Posted by Grimmskld [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm going to come in here and defend our OP, as well as our guild. I usually stay out of RnF, but I sympathize with Folgorth.

The druid in question didn't understand the infraction and thought he was doing a good thing for his guildmates! At the time, we didnt realize he was camped out past the ZL, or else we would have called a concede right away, thus avoiding any issues with other guilds.

And in reference to the Druid Fear tracker comment, we absolutely do NOT use our fear trackers to gain FTE! That whole ordeal happened once, and both druids were getting agro while trying to get out of the zone. Our guild isn't shady and always press to our members to abide by each and every server rule, 100%!

Your trackers can't be on the encounter log at all whether it was an accident or not unless they ported out first.

[Mendo]

Originally Posted by Grimmskld [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm going to come in here and defend our OP, as well as our guild. I usually stay out of RnF, but I sympathize with Folgorth.

The druid in question didn't understand the infraction and thought he was doing a good thing for his guildmates! At the time, we didnt realize he was camped out past the ZL, or else we would have called a concede right away, thus avoiding any issues with other guilds.

And in reference to the Druid Fear tracker comment, we absolutely do NOT use our fear trackers to gain FTE! That whole ordeal happened once, and both druids were getting agro while trying to get out of the zone. Our guild isn't shady and always press to our members to abide by each and every server rule, 100%!

You guys didn't ask him if he did something that was against the rules when he was accused of it by others?

[seananetsberger]

Originally Posted by Mendo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys didn't ask him if he did something that was against the rules when he was accused of it by others?

There was so word of the tracker fte. No one knew it happened. He logged in. Fte’d, died instantly. Then a legit fte bard landed at wizard ring after tracker fte was dead. Ran up and got a legit fte. No one called for tracker fte DQ. no one said anything. No one knew it happened. We all believed it was a real fte and we killed it excited.

It wasn’t until 6 hours later when ALS heard it dropped 2 scales that they began to attempt extortion with guild leads from BG for 1 scale or face full item deletion

ALS did not deserve the items any more than bg.
Also, isn’t extortion and lawyer quest against the ALS charter for loot? Aren’t you supposed to kill all your loots yourself??


They never got an fte. We never hindered them from getting fte. It just as easily could of been any other guild to kill it.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by seananetsberger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was so word of the tracker fte. No one knew it happened. He logged in. Fte’d, died instantly. Then a legit fte bard landed at wizard ring after tracker fte was dead. Ran up and got a legit fte. No one called for tracker fte DQ. no one said anything. No one knew it happened. We all believed it was a real fte and we killed it excited.

It wasn’t until 6 hours later when ALS heard it dropped 2 scales that they began to attempt extortion with guild leads from BG for 1 scale or face full item deletion

ALS did not deserve the items any more than bg.
Also, isn’t extortion and lawyer quest against the ALS charter for loot? Aren’t you supposed to kill all your loots yourself??


They never got an fte. We never hindered them from getting fte. It just as easily could of been any other guild to kill it.

This is the same as AW v Lord Nagafen v Rustle

The precedence was set unfortunately for you guys to DQ yourselves after first FTE was obtained illegally.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...12&postcount=1

[PieOats]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the same as AW v Lord Nagafen v Rustle

The precedence was set unfortunately for you guys to DQ yourselves after first FTE was obtained illegally.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...12&postcount=1

*precedent


*sniffs, blinks and walks off*

[seananetsberger]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the same as AW v Lord Nagafen v Rustle

The precedence was set unfortunately for you guys to DQ yourselves after first FTE was obtained illegally.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...12&postcount=1

Fully aware of this.
And we would of if we knew the fte went out. No one even k ew that the first fte went out. The person who got it never said squat. Probably cause he died within 2 seconds of fte.
No one knew it happened.
No one shouted tracker fte. DQ.
No one said anything about it until after they realized what dropped 6 hours later.

The tracker fte was an infraction. Bg accepts the punishment from llandris. We should not of killed it. Hence why we conceded 2 sev as soon as we found out.

We weren’t going to to accept being extorted by someone we called a friend.

Yes. There was an infraction. Are all infractions equal? Is training a guild equivalent to a tracker fte DQ and kill? . We did not hinder aegis’s ability to fte. The tracker fte was dead in seconds. We got a new fte 1 minute 17 seconds after the initial. The person who got the second fte did not see the first. The tracker fte person didn’t say anything in guild or voice.
In our minds it was a legit kill.
Myself and leadership have conceded mobs for bg when we fucked up and knew about it. We would of conceded this one before killing it if we knew.
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We were dealt punishment after already making the good faith effort to concede the next two.

Aegis has agreed with bg leads that the concession and apology was enough.
Aegis alliance