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View Poll Results: Restrictions on scout roll?
Only characters level 55+ can roll 112 52.09%
Keep the scout roll as is 96 44.65%
Other (please elaborate in a post) 7 3.26%
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:38 PM
Metham Metham is offline
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Oh neat, i have a second forum account? News to me.
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Old 09-18-2018, 04:37 PM
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yay
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:15 PM
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imho, I said this to my friends back when I was going to scout every roll. When 40-50 people show up, it is wasting a lot of people's time. It should be enough people to do the quest, but not many more. I guess my point is to think about the aggregate wasted time and having a restriction helps everyone save time. Ad-hoc agreements won't work because 1) you've already spent the time showing up and 2) you won't form consensus in any reasonable amount of time.

55+ seems like a fine cut-off and it benefits everyone to have this restriction.
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:02 AM
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It's a great idea, but the only reason I can't fully agree is because people should be allowed to gear Vox/Nag toons that are stuck at 52 for a purpose.

But yeah, everyone parking their shit alts they never play is super lame, especially when level 30s are there rolling. Restricting it to 52 is still better than nothing.
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:26 PM
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It's a great idea, but the only reason I can't fully agree is because people should be allowed to gear Vox/Nag toons that are stuck at 52 for a purpose.

But yeah, everyone parking their shit alts they never play is super lame, especially when level 30s are there rolling. Restricting it to 52 is still better than nothing.
I don't agree with restricting it at all, but your post makes a very strong case for restricting it to 60 just to ensure that the value of essence emeralds is driven ever lower.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:25 PM
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The mob is level 58, this isn't a hard choice IMO.

If you can't contribute reasonably to the kill effort you don't get to roll against those who do.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:25 AM
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The mob is level 58, this isn't a hard choice IMO.

If you can't contribute reasonably to the kill effort you don't get to roll against those who do.
Let's also limit Level 70 mobs drops to level 67 players.
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Old 09-20-2018, 06:53 AM
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Let's also limit Level 70 mobs drops to level 67 players.
That's not a reasonable comparison.

Does your guild bring lvl 30 mains into ToV with no resist gear, no clickies, completely unprepared? I'm betting they don't.

Do drops go to alts rather than rot? Yea, sometimes they do but the alt in question isn't making it more difficult for present characters who are prepared.

I want to be clear. There's nothing wrong with rolling for Scout on your 10th alt. What's unreasonable is allowing UN-invested characters to roll against invested one.

A level restriction is the most lenient manner to control this.
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Old 09-21-2018, 12:21 AM
Sadiki Sadiki is offline
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Does your guild bring lvl 30 mains into ToV with no resist gear, no clickies, completely unprepared?
Mine does
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Old 09-21-2018, 01:02 AM
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Voted to keep as is. It will likely be a train wreck trying to police this and people out to get around it will be a pita. Remember what this used to be like... click fest. I’d be very careful about rocking the boat and risk relapsing.

This way at least everyone who shows up has an equal chance.

Btw if you show and roll - correct me if Im wrong - but you can freely state pre-roll that you refuse to help with the kill if winner is below level 55 or whatever. If that sort of rhetoric was spread it might dissuade people from showing up with low level toons without at least having their own kill squad.
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