"Competition", "Skill", Cognitive Dissonance, and You.

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by ZiggyTheMuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

talks about video game "skillz" and somehow finds the time to lurk the forums of a game he doesn't even play, lol what a fucking nerd

He's definitely the only one who does this [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[BallzDeep]

Not that I don't agree that EQ is pretty trivial but, I have to point out the obvious that OP is NOT someone who just lurks.

He was obviously slighted out of pixels for a long time and is very upset about it. Funny someone who lurks cares to follow that many rules, knows who is the GL of what and what guild does what.

If you were "helping" with projects, which might I ask and can anyone confirm that story of yours?

If you care that much about a server you don't play, and don't really understand the frame of mind or ruleset people who are playing are in, and your sole grip is to come here and push that WoW is more of an opportunity than any a game you don't play than you are worse off than most here.

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by splose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly what I've been saying.

Whoever mentioned FFXIV and said if the players here spent the same amount of time playing that or WoW that they could compete in the Mythic or high end scene in FF not sure if I can agree with that. Like I said some would be able to but I doubt they could fill a full 20 man mythic raid.

The challenge being that everyone is cockblocking each other was already conceded but like I said. We're talking about the difference between actually progressing on X boss with mechanics (most unforgiving to the point where one person standing in fire for a second or two will wipe your raid) and who has the most efficient batphone.

The thickest neckbeards of the highest level of pixel degeneracy have posted here and didn't seem to want to answer my questions so that in itself is very telling.

I'm glad we got this out in the open and I'm sure some self awareness has been gained from this thread even if some are afraid to admit it.

Back to lurking I go.

Also I'd say majority of players here have also played WoW at some period of time and majority of them were raiding. Most people come back here because of many factors. Some people enjoy corpse runs, no maps, and a hard level grind. The only good thing about WoW Classic since we are referencing a classic game here, is PVP and AQ.

[Heebs13]

Certain key roles in P99 raids take skill, such as pulling or leading. If shit hits the fan, a skilled chanter, or offtank / healer combo can save the raid before things snowball out of control. For the most part though, most p99 raiding is decided by who had more people show up faster. That's not really skill, that's dedication.

It's dedication to wake up at 3am for a batphone. It's dedication to farm for hours to get clickies or plat to recharge clickies. It's dedication to poopsock a mob for a 16 hour window, or coth duck for 16 hours straight. It's dedication to be within arms reach of your computer for 16 hours so that you can log in at a moment's notice when the batphone hits. But it's not skill. Dedication and skill are two different things, and I'd argue p99 raiding is mostly dedication with bits of skill sprinkled throughout.

[branamil]

really sad that op thought this would be a bombshell. Very passé. It feels like it’s about 2 years behind the conversation. I guess not participating until the day you snap makes you an out of touch weirdo

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by splose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am here to make the argument that neither guilds, or anyone who raids in EverQuest for that matter is particularly skilled at all.

skill
skil/
noun
noun: skill

the ability to do something well; expertise.

ex·per·tise
ˌekspərˈtēz,ˌekspərˈtēs/
noun
noun: expertise

expert skill or knowledge in a particular field.

knowl·edge
ˈnäləj/
noun
noun: knowledge; plural noun: knowledges

1.
facts, information, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject.


If you don't understand why your argument fails by reading a few simple definitions of common words, then you're one of those people I know better than to argue with on the internet.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Heebs13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Certain key roles in P99 raids take skill, such as pulling or leading. If shit hits the fan, a skilled chanter, or offtank / healer combo can save the raid before things snowball out of control. For the most part though, most p99 raiding is decided by who had more people show up faster. That's not really skill, that's sickness.

It's sickness to wake up at 3am for a batphone. It's sickness to farm for hours to get clickies or plat to recharge clickies. It's sickness to poopsock a mob for a 16 hour window, or coth duck for 16 hours straight. It's sickness to be within arms reach of your computer for 16 hours so that you can log in at a moment's notice when the batphone hits. But it's not skill. Sickness and skill are two different things, and I'd argue p99 raiding is mostly sickness with bits of skill sprinkled throughout.

Fixed for nuance.

[Wonkie]

lol at bda agreeing with the brokebrained lurker

(am i doing papas gimmick right?)

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol at bda agreeing with the brokebrained lurker

(am i doing papas gimmick right?)

He could learn a thing or two from this post actually ^^

(got em)

[Mead]

swish gearing up for another autistic meltown / 15th ban