what most of you will not understand

[xshayla701]

You kind of took what I said to mean something different. I'm not looking for pity for being a girl. The original intent was just to show a side of things you may not think about. But it got turned into a retarded shitting contest with some feminism/misogyny thrown in.

Trust me, I realize that it is more likely to happen with an acquaintance or someone you think you know. I know people it's happened to. Letting the plumber in the house scares me just as much.

I didn't say it was a gender-specific terror. Clearly you missed the whole fucking point. Hell, men have a gender-specific terror too, they can have rape called on them at any point and the girl will probably get him sent to jail for years. The point was - we can't stop living our lives, but we do have to live with the fact that we can become victims in a way that men (generally) cannot and will never understand. It's not about the fact that I am too lazy to pump my gas by myself when I'm tired at night. It's the fact that if I didn't realize my gas was running low when I'm omw to work and I don't have time, I have no choice but to do it after work or risk running out on my way home. "Don't put yourself in stupid situations" - clearly it was stated we avoid those situations for THAT reason, because they are stupid and can put you into harms way. My solution was to get my bf to come with me, make plans to go to the store the next day, not take night classes, etc. I'm not going to stop doing what I need to do because I'm afraid. I'm not going to give up what independence I do have because I'm scared of getting mugged or murdered or raped. But that doesn't mean it doesn't cross my mind.

But you kind of made the point I was getting at. No measure that I take - gun, pepper spray, kneeing a guy in his balls - will make the playing field even. A man will almost always be able to overpower a woman. Damn right I'll do some decent damage and put up a fight, but in the end I'll probably end up dead. Rape is different from being mugged. You are powerless, weak, nothing, compared to the attacker. That is what they go for: making you feel powerless makes them feel more powerful. I don't get how you can't see the difference. Not to mention if the guy lets you LIVE, what you have to deal with for the rest of your life and go through to overcome it.

tl;dr version: you will never get it.

[xshayla701]

Something my sociology professor brought up one day:

Rapists rape to feel like they have power over another person. She asked "What would you do if you got raped?" Many replies included fight, kick, go for the eyes, etc. My professor said this: "I would give in. I wouldn't fight, I would offer to buy a hotel and whatever else. Because the rapist doesn't want someone who just gives up." Fucked up but kind of interesting/true.

[deathgirl]

Originally Posted by Abacab "The REAL truth" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which is absolute horseshit and me pointing out that women are no less sexualized than men as evident by the several dozen videos I posted of drunk college sluts pounding the goose and frantically groping at each other

When anyone thinks of rape, are females who rape men ever the first thought that come to mind? nope.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't the fucking Middle Ages. If you're scared to walk to your car from Wal-Mart at 11:30PM, there are two courses of action:

1) Stop going to Wal-Mart at 11:00PM.

2) Buy a gun.

A gun costs $200. Learning how to use it takes 2 weeks and another $100. For $300, you never have to feel vulnerable again.

More importantly, if you're truly terrified of being raped, spend more time researching the incidence of rape. The vast majority of rapes are not performed by some hulking man that sneaks up on you at the gas station and throws you in his trunk. The vast majority of rapes are perpetrated by people the victim knows, or people the victim has willingly put himself or herself into contact with. In other words, a guy that starts talking to you at a bar and slips something into your drink. A guy you go on a date with that decides you aren't allowed to swat his hand away when he's pulling your skirt off. A gardener, electrician, or basically anyone you allow into your home. A huge percentage of rapes are also targeted specifically at children and inmates, so assuming you're not in grade school or prison, and you're not an altar boy, you should be in the clear from that angle.

Basically, as long as you keep an eye on your drinks and avoid being anywhere alone with a man you don't trust, you don't really have to worry about being raped anymore than you have to worry about being mugged or hit by a car. Walking through a bad neighborhood late at night is always going to be dangerous, and not simply because of rapists. A woman might get raped; a man might get beaten into a coma for his wallet, or because some retarded gang-banger wants to prove a point. You're not experiencing some gender-specific terror if you have to gas your car up at midnight. Men don't like it, either.

Are men more naturally equipped to handle ourselves? Yes, but again, it's not the fucking Middle Ages. That is completely changeable. Rapists aren't bulletproof.

tl;dr -- Buy a gun, don't put yourself in stupid situations, and you'll be fine.

Unfortunately, it isn't that easy. Even in America not everyone can legally run around carrying loaded weapons without spending some time and money to legally carry one.

Law makers continually take steps that restrict law abiding citizens' ability to protect themselves.

[xshayla701]

Originally Posted by deathgirl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When anyone thinks of rape, are females who rape men ever the first thought that come to mind? nope.

Because it is far less common but it can happen. I read something that went like this - a group of people went out and got drunk, this guy's friend had brought some pregnant girl along but ended up getting smashed and left her with him. The guy was super drunk as well and couldn't drive her home so they agreed to get a hotel with separate beds, he had no intention of sleeping with her. He woke up in the middle of the night with her on top of him (himself erect) and she said that she would claim he raped her if he said anything. He didn't want to have that happen and he didn't want to throw her off because it would hurt her baby. so he was pretty much..fucked. Pardon the pun, cause it's not funny.

[deathgirl]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the possibility of any further insighful commentary became nil the second it got sent into RnF.

I do appreciate the original conversation, though. I'd say the majority of this board has spent little to no time thinking about the issue from a women's perspective. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had no idea what abacab meant the first time, but now I must know, WHAT IS R&F? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A gardener, electrician, or basically anyone you allow into your home. A huge percentage of rapes are also targeted specifically at children and inmates, so assuming you're not in grade school or prison, and you're not an altar boy, you should be in the clear from that angle.

This.

If you think it's scary on the outside, try being a male between the ages of 18-34 in the prison system. You've literally got no chance in escaping a raping and or beat down, you could fight them off but they'll just be back in greater numbers with sharper weapons and in the end you're either getting raped or you're dead.

Being a female you have no idea what it is like to be given the longstick of the law in every case, every court case involving women as the defendant has been light years less severe when it comes to punishment and retribution any civil case involving children or property from alimony might as well not be fought because the ruling will most likely be in favor of the woman.

and until you view through the eyes of men and view the world as "everyone is out to get you, don't be caught slippin'" you wont understand the general panic you'll feel when dealing with authority, when walking alone in bad areas, when meeting people you don't trust...

As a woman you'll never be sent off to foreign lands to be eviscerated in war sports, you'll never be drafted if needed and come back hideously disfigured and maimed or deal with huge cases of PTSD for the rest of your life. So remember it's hard to be a woman while you're home drinking pepsi cola and watching the Oxygen network as millions of men are slaughtered, tortured, and disemboweled daily for nothing other than mere politics.

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[Rilkean]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, levity is the appropriate response when a woman expresses her fears about rape and misogynists accuse her of having psychological problems.

When my sister lived with me in San Francisco, we had an open agreement: she could call me any time to come and make sure she got home safely. She dumped one of her boyfriends because he lived near the 16th & Mission BART station and thought it was cool for her to walk through the Mission at night alone. If you think this is over-protective, you're either naive or stupid. Women who aren't both careful and lucky are frequently referred to as victims.

Damn you are smart and it's hot and you understand women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hothothothothohthoththot

Mission scares me at night even if I'm with a male, specifically of the pussy/nerd category...

Seriously though damn... well spoken.

Also Abacab isn't a hipster. He's just a fucking gross anorexic uggo. C'mon.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by xshayla701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

she said that she would claim he raped her if he said anything.

This also.

Do you know how many false rape reports are made each year? Do you know how many women completely fuck over men simply because they were embarrassed about a sexual encounter or were completely scorned by a man and thus seek revenge?

[Rilkean]

^^Not the majority you dumbfuck.

pps CCW's are extremely hard to obtain in CA. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]