Has there been any recent chatter re. green server?

[Phenyo]

Originally Posted by Buriedpast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, yes I do think there should be a progression server.

It should replace P99 Blue, which should be wiped as it is a Beta server afterall.

Honestly this, green should just wipe the server.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Buriedpast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It should replace P99 Blue, which should be wiped as it is a Beta server afterall.

First off, wipes aren't classic.

But more importantly, why replace Blue? True, it is a "beta" server, but everyone who is bothered by Blue's history/economy will play on Green. Why not let people who've played on Blue for awhile now (possibly for as long as seven or eight years) keep playing?

Also keep in mind that there's still a question of what happens to Green characters after the three(-ish) year classic cycle is over and the server resets. While nothing has been decided whatsoever (that I know), one possibility that has been floated is that the staff will copy (with name adjustments) everyone on Green to Blue just before they restart it.

If that does wind up being the plan Blue will serve an important role as "that server where you can still play all your old favorites, both from Blue and from previous Greens".

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Buriedpast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I think you miss the key statement/idea which is to avoid the shitfight, by launching at current timeline.

Never going to happen. Remember, that the entire point of the "beta Blue server" was to research/re-create all of classic EverQuest. It would make no sense at all for the staff to do that and then just skip 2/3 of their work when they release the new server.

[branamil]

I agree. I would not start over on green if it had the same jenga tower of rules. They are just a thousand bandaids to cover the primitiveness of EQ’s mechanics. And Imagine trying to explain to a new player that you have to record every moment of playing because they might violate obscure rule #1877, or someone else might, and they would need to defend themselves in petition court or get suspended. They would probably say that sounds stupid and unfun.

[Musgo]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wipe Red, wiped Blue. Launch two different servers. Both regular EQ servers, one with regular timeline and one with double timeline (2xduration for all patch changes).

Let nerds pick the pace they want to play and it should naturally separate different styles of play.

Also the next servers really needs no rules. The camp and raid rules on P99 are pretty ridiculous. Wild West and let people figure it out. I think people will be pleasantly surprised how great EQ can be when taking a carrion ghoul from someone else's camp doesn't lead to petition threats.

Just one re-99 server though would get very congested to start and stay very congested during Classic since there are really only 3 zones to level in post-40.

I agree, let the world play out!

[loramin]

Originally Posted by d3r14k [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They have an inactive Discord server which has been down for a few months. Why not use that?

I'm pretty sure the physical server is the least of the issues. What's holding up Green isn't the server, it's A) waiting for the dev team to complete 100% of the classic EQ code (including the Chardok 2.0 patch), and B) waiting for the non-dev team to do all the various setup work that a new server requires (eg. establishing server rules, picking GMs, figuring out what happens to characters after the server ends, etc.).

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wipe Red, wiped Blue.

Go back to Agnarr and stop posting about how servers you don't play on should be wiped [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by branamil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They are just a thousand bandaids to cover the primitiveness of EQ’s mechanics. And Imagine trying to explain to a new player that you have to record every moment of playing because they might violate obscure rule #1877, or someone else might, and they would need to defend themselves in petition court or get suspended. They would probably say that sounds stupid and unfun.

What server do you play on? The one I play on has a relatively short rules page, only section 4 of: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=159515.

[Argh]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 is already past the population threshold you want on a time locked server. Specifically because everyone knows the best items, quests, camps and zones to go to. No one is grouping in Dalnir or Nurga on the regular. They're grinding in CoM and Sol B. This knowledge funnels people into certain areas and even though a 1000 pop server on Live back in 99-01 was fine, people were spending their time exploring and had no idea what was good.

Wouldn't people be forced to explore other zones if the main zones are over populated?

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're talking about a common sense solution to a server that sees fit to track Dozekar for 16 hour Windows and snap pull it at 3:30 AM on a Monday.

No, I'm sure nerds will just try to pile into Crushbone, then cry to a GM when one of the regular trash mobs near their camp is pulled by another group and petition.

In classic though I'm particular, there really isn't much alternate options for the 40-50 game. You're looking at LGuk (4 dead, 2-3 live), Sol B (4 camps), Kedge (2-3 camps), Seafuries (1 camp). It would very quickly get congested at the top end until Kunark. I'd love to see groups in the home cities slaying guards for EXP though. That would get me at maximum immersion levels.

Miss those WFP Guard farming days to get to level 50 back on Xegony

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're talking about a common sense solution to a server that sees fit to track Dozekar for 16 hour Windows and snap pull it at 3:30 AM on a Monday.

No, I'm sure nerds will just try to pile into Crushbone, then cry to a GM when one of the regular trash mobs near their camp is pulled by another group and petition.

In classic though I'm particular, there really isn't much alternate options for the 40-50 game. You're looking at LGuk (4 dead, 2-3 live), Sol B (4 camps), Kedge (2-3 camps), Seafuries (1 camp). It would very quickly get congested at the top end until Kunark. I'd love to see groups in the home cities slaying guards for EXP though. That would get me at maximum immersion levels.

What about Mistmoore Castle, and I"m sure there's some random other NPCs hanging around.

But you're right. And it's even worse for the raid situation, if the server never advances forward.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yesss blue to Luclin would be great. A+ to this man.

Couldn't wait to contest Lord Inquisitor Seru and Aten Ha Ra.

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