Bring back the Seafurys

[fadetree]

Quantum mechanics implies a base level of entropy that can not be raised, as well as leaving open the possibility of fluctuations that lower local entropy enough such that the state of no thermodynamic free energy is violated.

The universe is not supply and demand, after all. Duh.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quantum mechanics implies a base level of entropy that can not be raised, as well as leaving open the possibility of fluctuations that lower local entropy enough such that the state of no thermodynamic free energy is violated.

The universe is not supply and demand, after all. Duh.

Finally a explanation that makes some sense, thank you Fade-tree!

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP never mentioned supply and demand, that discussion began with Baler. We still waiting for his explanation of how p99 "is not supply and demand."

In a true supply and demand economy, as the supply of something increases, the demand for it would go down, so the price would go down. That HAS happened over the years, looking at fungi tunics in particular, they used to sell for 100k+. But let's take the Tstaff for example. Everyday there are more Tstaffs on the server, yet the price has nearly doubled over the last year. White dragon scales, 6 months ago I know of someone that sold one for 600k, then a few month after that I saw one listed for 250k, just the other week another friend sold one for 400k.

When you look at these three things separately, it's hard to see it as a pure supply and demand system, when the supply for some items simply doesn't reflect in the prices some people are paying.

Supply and demand factors in, sure. But more than that is the factor of what people think it's worth, regardless of the demand or its supply.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In a true supply and demand economy, as the supply of something increases, the demand for it would go down, so the price would go down. That HAS happened over the years, looking at fungi tunics in particular, they used to sell for 100k+. But let's take the Tstaff for example. Everyday there are more Tstaffs on the server, yet the price has nearly doubled over the last year. White dragon scales, 6 months ago I know of someone that sold one for 600k, then a few month after that I saw one listed for 250k, just the other week another friend sold one for 400k.

When you look at these three things separately, it's hard to see it as a pure supply and demand system, when the supply for some items simply doesn't reflect in the prices some people are paying.

Supply and demand factors in, sure. But more than that is the factor of what people think it's worth, regardless of the demand or its supply.

Perhaps there are other forces at work here! I suspect this is likely due to horizontal price fixing, likely sanctioned by p99's corporotocracy globalists. It could also be due to extremely outdated and excessively strict IP laws regarding pull strategies and guild management.

[Menden]

I have no idea why they got nerfed, but I'm glad they did. The amount of petitions for that stupid island was insane. I'd be fine with them being brought back, if PVP was enabled. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[ErlickBachman]

Originally Posted by Transylvania [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you are RMTing expensive items the last thing you want is easily attainable platinum for every Joe on the server.

I guess. From my experience, the Seafuries would be farmed by folks who farmed them regularly. Grant it, you would get new people who would come out there trying to get in on the loots, but most wouldn't stay. Some years back, I would park either my druid or necro out there for weeks at a time and I would /who all oot on other characters to see how many were out there. If the ping came back with 5 or less lvl 45+ chars, I'd switch over and farm for a bit. I even had times when Seafury island would be completely to myself. Also back then, people weren't so big on going /anon in OOT. When the zone population started to lean more towards /anon versus non-/anon, I knew it was well time for me to leave that farming altogether. So I started dungeon crawling Seb, KC, and HS. And that move paid off better than if I would've stayed trying to farm those Seafuries.

[ErlickBachman]

Originally Posted by Menden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no idea why they got nerfed, but I'm glad they did. The amount of petitions for that stupid island was insane. I'd be fine with them being brought back, if PVP was enabled. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well PVP on the island probably wouldn't work. All players camping seafuries would drag those poor one-eyed bastards out into the ocean or over to the AC island and kill them there.

[Evia]

Originally Posted by ErlickBachman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well PVP on the island probably wouldn't work. All players camping seafuries would drag those poor one-eyed bastards out into the ocean or over to the AC island and kill them there.

Make the entire zone PvP. Problem solved.

[Freakish]

Originally Posted by Menden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no idea why they got nerfed, but I'm glad they did. The amount of petitions for that stupid island was insane. I'd be fine with them being brought back, if PVP was enabled. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would be a horrible GM. My solution would be to DT both parties and summon them to vp hoshkar pad until they worked out a solution between themselves.

[ErlickBachman]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Make the entire zone PvP. Problem solved.

Yeah, so that way people who are taking the boat can just slaughter each other... That in itself would create even more petitions for the Server Staff.