Please Change the Two Boxing Rule

[Razdeline]

Originally Posted by Omnimorph [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're saying that boxing would enrich the population, if i have access to a 50 druid, am i going to go and group with a bunch of other players my level and have fun levelling up, or am i going to go somewhere like MM and PL myself, killing alot of mobs quicker than a full group can.

Factor in the market of account selling for platinum, with the ability to 2 box and because the big $$ camps are already taken by someone boxing, you have a bunch of other people levelling up characters JUST to sell.

And then you have a vanilla group, 6 people, all playing their single characters, wanting to exp in somewhere like Sola... along with a bunch of level 50 druids, PLing up some randoms.

I know this is the case, because if boxing was allowed, i'd be PLing my bard. And then i'd probably level up a rogue. Fact is, exp would be a lot quicker PLing myself so what's my incentive to group?

Also the incentive to group will be here once Kunark is released. Go box 4 characters and tell me how well you do in Sebelis or Chardok. I guarantee with all the mobs you will have to CC, trains, and ping ponging between characters, will be too much.

And like I said, people wouldn't play this game if there wasn't a social aspect. What I mean by that is: Just because people are boxing, does not mean they arent interacting with other players. If I knew I could box, but say there wasn't anyone in the game -- I wouldnt play the game.

[Razdeline]

Think about it, there are people that wont play because they cant box. I have 3 friends, good people, and good players that wont come here because of this.

How would the server be more social from non-boxing when ultimately there will always be less players?

[porigromus]

Originally Posted by Razdeline [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think about it, there are people that wont play because they cant box. I have 3 friends, good people, and good players that wont come here because of this.

How would the server be more social from non-boxing when ultimately there will always be less players?

There is proof that all the other servers which you can box on have less people playing them and Project 99. I think the proof is there that people prefer a server where you are playing with each other instead of everyone playing by themselves.

I for one tried other emu servers before this one and one of the reasons I chose to not continue was no one played together, everyone was leveling solo.

[Razdeline]

Also on classic, the classes played were more evened out.

Look at all the mages and necros on this server. Most of the people that have the solo mentality want to play a mage or a necro so they can camp things. Everywhere I go I see mages and necros, in groups, out of group, in raids(especially mages).

I know you all know what im talking about.

If boxing were allowed (with restrictions) I guarantee you wouldnt just see a bunch of mages running around.

Also, just because people want to box here or there, it doesn't mean they do it every waking moment they are in EQ. I hated boxing in raids/groups because I wanted to focus on my character and my group. I didn't like boxing compared to grouping/raiding. I actually enjoy to socialize when I play multiplayer games. I know most of you that have boxed can agree with me here, too.

Imagine the server with no one on it but yourself; Would you box and play on it if no one was ever going to be online?

[Curmudgen]

If the intent was to "just let my opinion be known" then an IM directed to the devs would work. Also you/y'all would not be responsive. Seems there is intent to market a change in attitude.

Really its been said before and it's true....this server has a rule set that will not be changing anytime in the forseeable future. This thread now seems pointless.

[Bruno]

Roll a pet class and you can dual box legit like the rest of us.

[runlvlzero]

whats funny about this 2 boxing business is just about anyone with half a brain can get just about any class to 50, and farm their own gear and be a loner. I think rogue right now could not possibly make 50 solo. And rogues are technically the easiest to get a group with if your LFG and 5 ft from another groups camp, and patient you will get a spot as soon as a dps drops to go have lunch. Unless everyone hates you...

Rogues - go farm poison, it gets better in kunark
Clerics - go play around with undead in s ro, or rathe mnts
Wars - best ever get from 30-31 in najena on TT's
etc... the list goes on theres nothing wrong with a little downtime

Why am I here and not on hidden forest or wow? because when I log in I get /tells from people chilling in EC or medding in a group or lfg ... sometimes I run around with someone and help them with something until i get a group or i try duoing a new spot with a random person to check out my class etc...

Sorry just not gonna happen here, especially when kunark comes out...

Ide also like to point out, bards can solo REALLY effectively, shamans, enchanters, wizards. Wizards vs Necro in a race to 50, a wizard has a solid chance of winning. Don't limit your options because "someone said play a certain way". Infact only class I would stay away from for any solo at all would be war and rog, with good twink items war is playable. I can solo my 32 SK in bronze armor if i want to... its cheese. Boring (because its solo) but cheese.

[Mad Jacq]

Boxing would ruin the server.

[tocasia]

Boxing is cheating and should continue to be disallowed. One of the best things about the Classic EQ experience is the need for groups to get anything done (for most classes). It's really great to get into a pick-up group where everyone is courteous and knows how to play their class. The need for social interaction to succeed puts old EQ above other current MMO's in my mind.

Personally, I'd hate to group with people who are boxing because I don't believe they can really be paying enough attention to each character to play well, and that disgusts me.

But it's still important to allow IP exemptions in special cases so that family can play together. I'm still waiting for mine, but I'm leveling a necro in the meantime.

[Spewys]

Yeah...No thanks. We have had this discussion enough.