Raiding Guild Behavior

[Kushie]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know very well why this is not appropriate in server chat fat ass. This belongs in RnF because you are a BDA apologist who doesn't actual care about the server and is only trying to cause problems for active P99ers.

Lol that is the only smart and on point response i've ever seen Spider73 post.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That Nagafen was over a year ago and thats what you point to?

9 months ago (June 2016) was over a year ago?

[Nuggie]

I dont mind a casual tracking. Checking track every 3-5 minutes. But I am not going to race for FTE. Where you have to be present and ready to go every second for hours on end.

The current pace suits me quite nicely. A&A get suspenended every 3-8 weeks due to their asshatery. The rest of the guilds form a rotation. We kill mobs and get our fill(more raiding than I prefer to do in a week tbh). The suspension ends and we go back to raiding HoT, planes, etc.

I'm not unhappy with the raid scene. Better than the TMO days. Shoot, i even enjoy the occasional time that A or A show up to a lower tier mob and contest us. Puts some spice in it.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

9 months ago (June 2016) was over a year ago?

Not to mention the fact that this behavior continues over such a long course of time is pretty damning in itself.

[Troxx]

All accounts with a character (even one) wearing a guild tag for the raid suspended guild should be automatically suspended from the game for the duration of the raid suspension - active/inactive/present/absent notwithstanding.

When every account from a guild has to suffer a complete p99 time out while under raid suspension- you can bet people will star policing their behavior more aggressively. I bet guilds would also actually dial back on the lawyerquest petitions as they could very well get their own guild suspended under the "crying wolf" clause.

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Comoc1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Educated people

fair enough

of course it's possible to continue your education after graduating, as I have done.

god bless reading comprehension.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

of course it's possible to continue your education after graduating, as I have done.

learning is dum

[Troxx]

Repeat offending guilds just need more harsh punishment. If the consequences were more meaningful, the message would sink in. The mindset that drives the pixel-lust to begin with would, in theory, affect behavior. If training, leapfrogging, lawyerquesting, crying wolf, etc realistically carried a threat of absolute pixel loss for all within a guild - the good apples in either guild would quickly realize that ultra competition and shady behavior seen at the top end is not worth risking everything for (ban, delevel + stripped of all gear/coin) or loss of access (prolonged guild-wide suspension from logging in).

Punishment given to all who wear the tag.

The reasonable members of either would split away to form a new less toxic guild (or join other existing ones) and leave the banhammer to fall on the more toxic. Or maybe everyone would start to play nice? Or maybe nobody would change anything and we'd see see a big chunk of the nasty all vanish or be forced to start over?

The raid guild forum is littered with suspension messages. The rules are pretty clear ... they're just being ignored.

[Sadiki]

Originally Posted by RDawg816 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think most would agree the raiding scene is not enjoyable...

That being said, it's hard to fix it with the raid mentality we have. Lawyer-questing and petitioning nonstop...

The server needs to hard enforce play nice rules instead of taking a 'make everyone happy' approach - which in reality is a 'make sure A/A is happy' approach. Wall staring and FTE racing are rules that change EQ from a game into a job. I don't care if people claim it's 'their idea of fun'.

I don't know why we're afraid of scaring toxic players off the server. The only people you would lose with rule changes are the ones that get off on griefing and rule breaking. The rest would still stay for the game.

[Comoc1]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fair enough

of course it's possible to continue your education after graduating, as I have done.

god bless reading comprehension.

Do you give yourself a spring break?