Looting Rules

[Llodd]

This all reminds me of the time I was camping xalgoz for his staff.

A couple of TMO's (yeah a long time ago) came along asking if they could loot the HS key part to which I said sure for 5K.

Anyway they looked suprised but just sat there waiting for the corpse to open and proceeded to loot the fang without any payment !!

Off they went with their ill gotten gains, so I sent a tell demanding 5k, and even offered them an extremely reasonable repayment plan if their funds were short!! Next thing I know they've petitioned me and a GM contacts me to tell me to stop bullying them !! I got a good laugh out of it.

Technically I was in the right even if I was just messing about. And yet I'm the one who gets a telling off xD

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This all reminds me of the time I was camping xalgoz for his staff.

A couple of TMO's (yeah a long time ago) came along asking if they could loot the HS key part to which I said sure for 5K.

Anyway they looked suprised but just sat there waiting for the corpse to open and proceeded to loot the fang without any payment !!

Off they went with their ill gotten gains, so I sent a tell demanding 5k, and even offered them an extremely reasonable repayment plan if their funds were short!! Next thing I know they've petitioned me and a GM contacts me to tell me to stop bullying them !! I got a good laugh out of it.

Technically I was in the right even if I was just messing about. And yet I'm the one who gets a telling off xD

lol TMO. I went into Droga one time on my necro to grind up some faction. There's about 8 TMO guys sat at the entrance...they're doing Droga AOE for faction. I say hi but they stay quiet. Next pull comes in, I decide I might as well get everything tagged - it all dies. Then one of them says "2k per pull", I laugh and basically say I'm going to tag everything without disrupting the death process. They then ask if I'll help pull more goblins to the entrance. Ended up doing that as a compromise, everybody won. Cheeky gits though, as if there was a chance I might have paid it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it just me, or letting something rot that clearly nobody wants versus letting someone not in your group have it... seem a little ridiculous.. and more importantly.. selfish? Hearing stuff like this and all the raid cesspool drama makes me never ever want to raid. I'm kind of afraid by just existing in someone's raid group would get me suspended or in trouble. Just an observation from a super casual.

I totally agree, I think some people are very jealous (it's mine and you can't have it) or greedy (you can have it if you pay). I'm just trying to relay how I understand the rules.

I'm certainly not going to be one of those people who make ridiculous / unprovable statements to try make themselves seem generous (you know the ones, "I gave away velious quest plate legs, pet spell scrolls, jboots, blahblah blah for free. Look at me I'm so kind").

[Kittens]

Originally Posted by Teako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ITT: OP tries to "prove it" to a long standing rule. Insists it's not an actual rule. Guide shuts him down. Rule is somehow unfair that he didn't know of because he can't steal loot.

Wow, I sense the passive aggressiveness in this. I think this might be the salty bard who put me on the no loot list which was probably a result of him getting his feelings hurt.

I was querying whether or not an esoteric server rule, which is contradictory to pure game code, exists. This isn't ninja-looting, this is looting negligible-value-corpses left to rot unlooted as a free action ungoverned by another player (which can be very subjective and therefore bad).

Please quote me saying that the rule is unfair, otherwise you're fabricating things. If you want something to quote, here, quote this: I think that in the context in which I framed it earlier, the rule is ridiculous as provides an arbitrary basis for discrimination and enables unwieldy subjectivity to be applied to particular persons. This rule conflicts with the loot possession timer (pure game code) which extends looting rights of a corpse to the entire population of the server after a given period time. To say that you own a corpse and can dictate who or who does not loot it as a subjective choice is to negate the loot possession timer, which is hard game code. This isn't me saying it's unfair, this is me saying that it conflicts with pure game code.

Also, guide didn't "shut me down" as you claim, he verified whether or not the rule existed, which was the point of this post and I in fact thanked him for verifying the existence of this rule. The other point of this post was to show how ridiculous this rule is in some contexts.

[Axlrose]

Now I feel bad looting all those wasting away chunks of meat and ruined bear pelt littering East Commonlands with seconds left on the corpse... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Mags]

Originally Posted by Axlrose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now I feel bad looting all those wasting away chunks of meat and ruined bear pelt littering East Commonlands with seconds left on the corpse... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Me tooo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I'm Lawful good IRL and this is freakin' me out! D:

[dslaybac]

Can someone post the rules regarding this looting "rule?" I mean an official post by the server admins and not some thread about something that happened in 2012.

I would like to see it in writing please!

[Whirled]

So far, we have...
If the player says, "yes", loot away.
If not, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by dslaybac [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can someone post the rules regarding this looting "rule?" I mean an official post by the server admins and not some thread about something that happened in 2012.

I would like to see it in writing please!

I assume your trolling, because it's been linked to, quoted, and a gmhopped in and backed it up.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you didn't kill it you don't have the right to loot it without permission.

There is no other interpretation or other way to say this.

If you got exp on a corpse, its contents belong to you. If you did not, looting = ninja looting.

i often feel like people are unable to see the bigger picture. The reason this is stringent is to allow 0 room for interpretation.

A GM/Guide always can subjectively rule, but they need an objective basis.