How to save red

[Crazycloud]

if any small crew from blue wants to level up rogues/clerics/bards i'll PL pm me

[Izmael]

Red is great if you can play full time, ie: 16+ hours per day 7 days a week.

EQ PvP is very fun and those who say it's "imbalanced" are just terribad at it. Basketball is imbalanced, too. A good team will always beat a bad team.

If you can deal with playing with people who, for most of them, have a personality of someone who spent the last few years playing EQ Emu non-stop 24/7, then Red is the place to be. Otherwise, play blue, which is better if you have job, family, friends, income and all that boring stuff.

(People who will invariably come up with counter-examples: your counter-examples aren't meaningful, thanks).

[Dollar]

I think the massive amount of toxic circle-jerk on the forums will probably forever impact any chance for a successful Red population. It would take massive changes for people from blue to really commit to a pvp server; just because of what has happened to the current red..

Just watch Cars. What happens to the little towns that get bypassed by the new highways? They die because those towns no longer have anything to offer except to the derelict few who remain to reign over their cesspool of a server.

Blue = highway
Red = Radiator Springs

Profound insight right?? right? .. right?

[Kich867]

People are getting pretty defensive over stuff. The reality is, tons of people who post on the red forums don't even play the game--they just troll the forums. From what I've seen, very few people that play red actually participate on the forums, only the vocal select few.

Once you're actually IN the server, you can very, very quickly identify who to ignore within about 2-3 days of playing. I only have maybe... 7 or 8 people ignored and their alts and the global OOC chat is immediately fine.

You can largely ignore PVP until you hit end-game content in which the amount of available content is far, far more suited to the number of players on Red than it is on Blue. I think the biggest perks of playing the server are:
- Faster leveling, encouraged grouping
- Less populated zones, it's much easier to
- Global OOC, if you /ignore the few trolls / genuinely annoying people, global OOC is pretty great.
- Grouping and Raiding has a different vibe to it, in raids there's an emphasis on the speed and execution of raids, doing content with fewer numbers and very efficiently. I enjoy this aspect the most I think.

I think the player base is a lot less toxic than you think it is overall once you get into it, it's just like 5-10 people that stand out very, very much from the rest. I'm not entirely sure where the blind, vehement hatred comes from that blue has for red, if anything it's pretty weird and makes that community look a looooot more toxic.

[coldslaw]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the player base is a lot less toxic than you think it is overall once you get into it, it's just like 5-10 people that stand out very, very much from the rest.

So just 30% of the population.. that's not too bad i guess.

[Sage Truthbearer]

Dudes are still trying to beg people with these desperate, groveling threads to play on their dead server.

It's just sad, really.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I play and post on a classic everquest emu and forum

It's just sad, really.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by coldslaw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So just 30% of the population.. that's not too bad i guess.

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Likely 3-4% and probably the same person on multiple accounts to be honest. You have a pretty strong proactively anti-red server agenda though, which is weird to be so invested in. I was just pointing out the highlights of the server and that the myth that the server is toxic is mostly unfounded.

It can be boring seeing the same rehashed conversations on OOC about who's better than who, but again, the rest of the population doesn't care much for the top end quarreling.

However, when you DO care about it, the pvp battles are actually really enjoyable and fun. The shit talking afterward I don't care much for, but the fights are exciting and interesting.

I do think if they were to figure out how to stop plugging from removing you from the server so quickly that would be ideal, which absolutely has to be possible. But that's only something people who are really embarrassed to die do. Yellow texts are fun, embrace 'em.

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- Faster leveling, encouraged grouping

I think the player base is a lot less toxic than you think it is overall once you get into it

Strangely enough, it was clearly toxic people using encouraging me to group as a method of griefing that drove me from the server pretty quickly, so...I find your argument invalid.

[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Strangely enough, it was clearly toxic people using encouraging me to group as a method of griefing that drove me from the server pretty quickly, so...I find your argument invalid.

problem really attitude tbh. if everyone learn to adopt the mindset of the grieved into they play and just laugh about it and be good sport then it not bad at all. problem is PSF people not able to do that cause they not wanna admit they powerless in certain time and would rather cry than laugh and resolve to make things better