Why do Awakened members even stay?

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What qualifies as best? Serious question. Lay down the parameters.

I would assume it would have to do with first to kill said mobs and farming it all before the others do?

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What qualifies as best? Serious question. Lay down the parameters.

On Phinny it's about who competes open world. Organization, quality of players, and consistency. I'm sure everyone believes they have the best players in their guild over another, but not really relevant if not dominating the open world content.

[getsome]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On Phinny it's about who competes open world. Organization, quality of players, and consistency. I'm sure everyone believes they have the best players in their guild over another, but not really relevant if not dominating the open world content.

not even remotely close to the truth. competing on open world spawns is a joke on phinny.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not even remotely close to the truth. competing on open world spawns is a joke on phinny.

I never said they weren't a joke compared to here, but if you aren't competing open world, then your kills don't matter. They are instanced. How are you going to say you're better than another guild by killing targets in your own instance lol. It's as ridiculous as it sounds.

[kotton05]

How do open world work on there? Why wouldn't it just all
Be instanced at this point

[Skew]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said they weren't a joke compared to here, but if you aren't competing open world, then your kills don't matter. They are instanced. How are you going to say you're better than another guild by killing targets in your own instance lol. It's as ridiculous as it sounds.

Quite. You just summed up instanced raiding.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said they weren't a joke compared to here, but if you aren't competing open world, then your kills don't matter.

EQ is a PVE game you nuts. If you can clear the content faster, with fewer numbers, and earlier in an expansion you are better at the game. Open world in contrast is simply about who neckbeards harder in terms of poopsocking, training, and getting up at 3AM.

[baue1446]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I completely disagree and I guess that's why we don't see eye to eye on who's #1. AoS is currently (to my knowledge) the ONLY guild on Phinny that gives 2 shits about open world targets in 99.9% of cases. OGC has a geared as fuck raid force going into PoP and we've hit like 1? maybe 2? open world targets period since I joined and its just cause they happened to be up when we were about to instance it and decided to double dip. Not cause we actively sought it out and poopsocked for it. Instances are all you need to get most of your guild completely decked out in current expac gear before the next one drops. Especially if you're 2-3 splitting shit.

AoS is the only guild that does open world. If you want to define the best guild by who gets the most open world they win by default I guess? I personally define best by who beats the final boss of the most recent expac first and that's how its calculated on Phinnykills as well. OGC beat AHR before AoS. We can argue about the questionable methods they used to win the race but the scoreboard stays the same. AoS and OGC both downed AHR on 10/2/16. I forgot about Darkwind in my previous post. I don't really know much about them all I've heard is people shit talking them and I think they're a euro guild? But them and EoE were tied for second kill day on 10/11/16. After that its Entendre, Resolute, Rosengard and IVAS on 10/16/16. My list wasn't super far off I just forgot about Darkwind and Entendre. Plus I'm a little biased towards Resolute and IVAS cause I know some really good players in both those guilds.

This guy is full of shit. He is obviously a new member of Phinny. Ive been there since the start and his facts are just fucking retarded. When I say "new" he likely joined at the end/middle of SoV. But whatever. Lets set some things straight.

1st - He says AoS did "shaddy tactics" for AHR. AoS cleared VT to AHR while OGC used known bugs to pull bosses and skip 90% of trash (and they still managed to BARELY beat AoS to AHR by like a few min)

2nd - I know for a fact his guild OGC zoned into an OW AoS emp kill and got half their rifts. This is after AoS owned OGC on that emp kill and they were super salty and plotted the shard theft.

3rd - OGC and AoS both used training and other super shady tactics getting their VT shards when luclin first came out. They both trained and KS'ed legitimate camps. They are both scum bag trainers and hated by 99% of the server.

4th - "OGC doesnt pull VT bosses to zone in" holy fuck this is a pack of lies. Ive seen it so often its funny. This guy is a scum bag trust me

5th - His superior guild raid force of OGC for POP by only doing instances and split VT. Joke. ANYONE clearing VT in phinny has 100+ people in full VT gear. His claim his guilds toons are better geared than the rest of the server is just false. Being fully VT geared on phinny is like saying "Hey I got this anus where I shit out of. Bet none of the rest of the world has one!"

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by baue1446 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy is full of shit. He is obviously a new member of Phinny. Ive been there since the start and his facts are just fucking retarded. When I say "new" he likely joined at the end/middle of SoV. But whatever. Lets set some things straight.

1st - He says AoS did "shaddy tactics" for AHR. AoS cleared VT to AHR while OGC used known bugs to pull bosses and skip 90% of trash (and they still managed to BARELY beat AoS to AHR by like a few min)

2nd - I know for a fact his guild OGC zoned into an OW AoS emp kill and got half their rifts. This is after AoS owned OGC on that emp kill and they were super salty and plotted the shard theft.

3rd - OGC and AoS both used training and other super shady tactics getting their VT shards when luclin first came out. They both trained and KS'ed legitimate camps. They are both scum bag trainers and hated by 99% of the server.

4th - "OGC doesnt pull VT bosses to zone in" holy fuck this is a pack of lies. Ive seen it so often its funny. This guy is a scum bag trust me

5th - His superior guild raid force of OGC for POP by only doing instances and split VT. Joke. ANYONE clearing VT in phinny has 100+ people in full VT gear. His claim his guilds toons are better geared than the rest of the server is just false. Being fully VT geared on phinny is like saying "Hey I got this anus where I shit out of. Bet none of the rest of the world has one!"

No one cares

[arsenalpow]

Ya, 6 months of PoP. So much so fast.