My experience with a raid guild on P99

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by lonmoer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But if I'm not in the guild then I can't spend DKP anymore so this doesn't work.

There are many levels of troll ^^ This is the most basic: sarcasm ^^

[Nikkanu]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Sorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd better submit my app to AG now, then!

(Just kidding, please don't try to recruit me, Expediency)

To OP: I have to agree with a few others in this thread. It's hard (impossible, maybe) to get high end items without having a good reputation or friends. Stick around, make friends, and you'll have all the help you need. It's just a good idea in general to make friends anyway. Friends are fun! Friends like you! Friends go on adventures with you! Being a friend is fun, too! I highly recommend it.

Didn't realize I said "I have no friends". Let me clarify that I do have friends. I have friends outside the game, and I even have friends on p99.

What I don't have is friends in this guild, and it seems I probably won't in the end either. I have determined like many people have discussed in this thread already, that I simply aint a good fit for this type of guild.

I should have simply followed the route my ingame friends have taken, but I wanted to try something new and something I never got to do on live. Which is raid higher end content in Kunark and Velious. All this has done is actually isolated me more from some of the pals I made early on because guild activities tend to take up time and my pals are in other smaller guilds, doing their own things too.

Call it casual, or whatever other veiled insult you want, I actually enjoy the journey with others and value the times when you can chat and talk about stuff while you grind XP or hunt at a specific camp.

Perhaps the raid scene just aint for me. When people start thirsting for loots to the point that they forget common decency towards their own guild members, it's at this point where I no longer find the game fun.

If it sounds like I am being contentious here, it's not what I intend... I just found your post a bit insultive as if my whole problem is some social issue of making friends.

On a side note, I have a cleric and a paladin that I enjoy most of all my toons right now, and guess what? Both are highly group oriented, and I have made new "friends" since leveling them up.

I guess I was just hoping that there was a chance that I could partake in some of the challenging content with a guild that had the mindset of a smaller knit guild that valued it's members and not just a select core group who basically keep the pixels flowing in for themselves.

One thing about people I always try to remind myself is what I learned 30 years ago from a very influential movie, when.... Well. let me find it.

Here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cHpNyD4tZA

[Nikkanu]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't realize I said "I have no friends". Let me clarify that I do have friends. I have friends outside the game, and I even have friends on p99.

What I don't have is friends in this guild, and it seems I probably won't in the end either. I have determined like many people have discussed in this thread already, that I simply aint a good fit for this type of guild.

I should have simply followed the route my ingame friends have taken, but I wanted to try something new and something I never got to do on live. Which is raid higher end content in Kunark and Velious. All this has done is actually isolated me more from some of the pals I made early on because guild activities tend to take up time and my pals are in other smaller guilds, doing their own things too.

Call it casual, or whatever other veiled insult you want, I actually enjoy the journey with others and value the times when you can chat and talk about stuff while you grind XP or hunt at a specific camp.

Perhaps the raid scene just aint for me. When people start thirsting for loots to the point that they forget common decency towards their own guild members, it's at this point where I no longer find the game fun.

If it sounds like I am being contentious here, it's not what I intend... I just found your post a bit insultive as if my whole problem is some social issue of making friends.

On a side note, I have a cleric and a paladin that I enjoy most of all my toons right now, and guess what? Both are highly group oriented, and I have made new "friends" since leveling them up.

I guess I was just hoping that there was a chance that I could partake in some of the challenging content with a guild that had the mindset of a smaller knit guild that valued it's members and not just a select core group who basically keep the pixels flowing in for themselves.

One thing about people I always try to remind myself is what I learned 30 years ago from a very influential movie, when.... Well. let me find it.

Here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cHpNyD4tZA

Not going to lie... you don't really sound like you'd be a blast at parties. Just sayin.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Nikkanu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not going to lie... you don't really sound like you'd be a blast at parties. Just sayin.

I know most people say this when a party needs a pick me up, "you know what this party needs? more people who play everquest."

[maskedmelon]

Couldn't watch your vid Lance, but it's perfectly reasonable if you feel you don't fit where you are and prefer to live. I would not however allow yourself to believe that you can't enjoy where you are, you just have to learn the mindset of those around you and then figure out how to give it a big ol' hug without it poking you ^^ There are ways and they don't necessarily involve sacrificing who you are, but they do require a certain level of malleability ^^

Good example for me is pvp. I absolutely hated it until I read some accounts that seemed absolutely deplorable to me, but all parties involved including the victims thought it was hillarious. That's when I realized, "ohhhh, this is what these people do!" They do it and they expect it ^^ As long as you understand the mindset, you can float along in the same stream without getting rubbed the wrong way ^^ There are occasional insufferable turds, but they are few and far between. You can have fun where you are if you want to. Start by giving up and dropping all expectations ^^

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Nikkanu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not going to lie... you don't really sound like you'd be a blast at parties. Just sayin.

If I was trying to impress you with my internet persona, I probably wouldn't be writing about raiding on P99. I will try to liven up my posts to entertain you more, ok? Actually, nah, I won't.

[Nikkanu]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know most people say this when a party needs a pick me up, "you know what this party needs? more people who play everquest."

Because I was totally being literal, right...? *facepalm*

The point I am trying to make is this guy seems very negative which doesn't tend to attract lots of friends. It takes time to build friendships. It takes effort to help others and build your reputation as someone who helps others. You can't join a guild where no one knows you and expect everyone to go out of their way and invest their time to help applicant #23019923912 get epiced so they can go rejoin their casual guild. Over time you will build friendships, if you make an effort to do so, in any guild. There's no special exception to this just because a guild raids a lot.

[paulgiamatti]

Not sure which guild you're in - I know it isn't AG by the app process - but to me it really sounds like you joined a class C guild when what you really wanted was a class R guild. If the guild you're in isn't a CSG guild, I'd recommend them, and I've also been hearing good things about Venerate lately. I mean, I'm sure there are some douchebags in every guild, but the "class R" guilds seems to actively discourage them a lot more than the C guilds. The C guilds aren't really so much about the social aspect of the game, they just want to be hardcore and get BiS items.

To clarify, under the old class system before Velious there was class [C]ompetitive and class [R]estricted - if you were to translate today's raid environment into this system you'd probably end up with like Awakened, Aftermath, and Rustle as the C guilds, and all the other "casual" raiding guilds (with maybe a couple exceptions) as the R guilds.

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wanted to try something new and something I never got to do on live. Which is raid higher end content in Kunark and Velious.

Sadly, unless you played on a red server or one of the servers the GMs/developers played on, you won't get to experience this on P99. You'd be better off playing on the new live TLP server with instanced raiding and stuff if you want to experience that, but then you'll have to put up with all the garbage expansions as well. Personally, I hated Luclin onward too much to play on Phinny.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couldn't watch your vid Lance, but it's perfectly reasonable if you feel you don't fit where you are and prefer to live. I would not however allow yourself to believe that you can't enjoy where you are, you just have to learn the mindset of those around you and then figure out how to give it a big ol' hug without it poking you ^^ There are ways and they don't necessarily involve sacrificing who you are, but they do require a certain level of malleability ^^

Good example for me is pvp. I absolutely hated it until I read some accounts that seemed absolutely deplorable to me, but all parties involved including the victims thought it was hillarious. That's when I realized, "ohhhh, this is what these people do!" They do it and they expect it ^^ As long as you understand the mindset, you can float along in the same stream without getting rubbed the wrong way ^^ There are occasional insufferable turds, but they are few and far between. You can have fun where you are if you want to. Start by giving up and dropping all expectations ^^

Dang, you can't watch the vid! It's a classic, and you are only depriving yourself of knowledge that you just may not have! It's a 9 second clip actually. But. Deep. Thought provoking. Chilling. Check it out if you get the time somehow, somewhere. I highly recommend.

I know what you mean, though. Ironically, I love PVP, always played PVP since eq1, played PVP on RZ, SZ, then Zek. Then went to PVP on eq2. Then went to WAR for PVP. Then went to SWTOR for PVP! Problem I have with PVP on P99 red is it has too small a population for my taste. If it had the pop that blue has, I probably would have started on Red for sure, but it never has since I began playing on P99.

I can handle PVP and the drama it brings I never rage over what others say or when I lose, and I like the competitiveness of PVP. I also value a population and sadly P99 Red does not have that.