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Old 09-27-2016, 12:55 AM
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And if Trump wants to do better in the next debate he needs to accept the fact that he didn't do as well as he should have. Checking his Twitter he seems to think he won tonight but I really don't think he did.

He can't go forward into the next debate with the mindset that he won round 1. He needs to improve and drop the birtherism and stop and frisk shit because he needs minority votes badly to win.
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:01 AM
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Feel like Trump lost but honestly tonight was a 2 on 1. Lester Holt may be a registered Republican but I'm calling bullshit on the host considering not one question was posed towards Clinton about her email server, Benghazi, pay to play, etc.

These debates won't be good for Trump. Clinton's an automaton robot of political jargon bullshit. She's been playing this game her entire life.

If Trump wants to win or gain ground in the debates he needs to focus on Clinton's corruption and the fact that she's been in politics for 30 years with little to show for it outside of her 125 mil estimated fortune.
Ya, I think you're right about how he should play it. I think he really wanted to try the calm policy debate approach, but I expect from here on out the gloves will be off from the word go.

In the future, I expect he will bring up every law she has broken, and allegation of corruption that even remotely relates to any topic brought up.

The deck is really stacked against her. For all the faux-scandals they love to bring up on Trump, Congress doesn't feel like any of them are worthy of investigation like her emails and benghazi (and her foundation in the future).
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:02 AM
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Feel like Trump lost but honestly tonight was a 2 on 1. Lester Holt may be a registered Republican but I'm calling bullshit on the host considering not one question was posed towards Clinton about her email server, Benghazi, pay to play, etc.

These debates won't be good for Trump. Clinton's an automaton robot of political jargon bullshit. She's been playing this game her entire life.

If Trump wants to win or gain ground in the debates he needs to focus on Clinton's corruption and the fact that she's been in politics for 30 years with little to show for it outside of her 125 mil estimated fortune.
Finally! Someone else agrees with my opinion!

haha

So in essence, Trump lost that debate. YES<
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:03 AM
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Ya, I think you're right about how he should play it. I think he really wanted to try the calm policy debate approach, but I expect from here on out the gloves will be off from the word go.

In the future, I expect he will bring up every law she has broken, and allegation of corruption that even remotely relates to any topic brought up.
Sure hope so. The Clinton's are like mob bosses. Plus they both screw woman on the side... And still kiss each other at the end of the day... It's kinda creepy
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:07 AM
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LOL Hannity has Ted Cruz on his show.
I listened to that live. You obviously didn't even listen to that. You think that all was a good thing for Cruz? lol
Dude, really, you are coming off as so leftist atm. Why wouldn't Hannity have Cruz on? Sounds something like a very leftist comment. Though hilarious thing is it turned out terrible for Cruzer, he should have just stayed in bed that day lol
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:12 AM
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Really doesn't matter all that much which one of these stooges wins the presidency. As long as Congress remains the way it currently is, nothing is going to get done. I'd say the single most important outcome of this election going forward is going to be the appointment of supreme court justices. And I think Hillary's campaign is missing a big opportunity on that note.

Think of it this way: Donald Trump is a guy who, just tonight, unrepentant admitted he'll game the system and do unethical things if the law allows him to (In response to being accused of paying no taxes and exploiting bankruptcy, he proudly says doing so was 'smart'). It was very obvious tonight for anyone who was reading between the lines to perceive that Trump is someone with zero sense of morality or altruism, and he cognitively operates purely on self interest.

Now I'm not saying Clinton is really any different, but what's important is that she hides it, while Trump celebrates it. And the problem we're facing is that people like this, these hyper-individualistic fuck-you-I-got-mine assholes, who will step over each other to get a piece, are destroying the human race. They are destroying representative government in previously civilized countries that once had a more pronounced collectivist cultural component (absolutely required for a democracy to function). They lack the empathy and sense of duty to be proper stewards of the environment, and are trashing the planet for future generations. And they are bringing back the worst, most parasitic elements of Gilded Age capitalism that have been hiding under a thin veneer of pseudo-socialist civic trust.

It's important that even when we are malevolent hellspawn, we at least try to hide it. That way, when little 8 year old Johnny whose prefrontal cortex is being wired with a lifelong predisposition to certain cultural values and cognitions, watches all this happen, he doesn't get the impression that it's acceptable to act like Donald Trump. You know, making fun of disabled people, scamming suckers, suing everyone you can, and insulting the physical appearance of your peers.
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:16 AM
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It's a dog eat dog world Lune.
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:18 AM
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It's a dog eat dog world Lune.
^ An all too common schema of dysfunctional ethics where the belief that others doing wrong makes it okay for you to do wrong as well.
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:23 AM
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It's going to keep happening. We don't live in an utopia. You can lay down and get taken or stand up and take.
It's too late to fix.

Extreme example:Once you teach a monkey to beat another's head in to steal their banana. You can't unteach that monkey that.
Other monekys laying down see that and decide..

Do I think it sucks and it's unethical. Yeah but it's too far too late.
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:26 AM
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Really doesn't matter all that much which one of these stooges wins the presidency. As long as Congress remains the way it currently is, nothing is going to get done. I'd say the single most important outcome of this election going forward is going to be the appointment of supreme court justices. And I think Hillary's campaign is missing a big opportunity on that note.

Think of it this way: Donald Trump is a guy who, just tonight, unrepentant admitted he'll game the system and do unethical things if the law allows him to (In response to being accused of paying no taxes and exploiting bankruptcy, he proudly says doing so was 'smart'). It was very obvious tonight for anyone who was reading between the lines to perceive that Trump is someone with zero sense of morality or altruism, and he cognitively operates purely on self interest.

Now I'm not saying Clinton is really any different, but what's important is that she hides it, while Trump celebrates it. And the problem we're facing is that people like this, these hyper-individualistic fuck-you-I-got-mine assholes, who will step over each other to get a piece, are destroying the human race. They are destroying representative government in previously civilized countries that once had a more pronounced collectivist cultural component (absolutely required for a democracy to function). They lack the empathy and sense of duty to be proper stewards of the environment, and are trashing the planet for future generations. And they are bringing back the worst, most parasitic elements of Gilded Age capitalism that have been hiding under a thin veneer of pseudo-socialist civic trust.

It's important that even when we are malevolent hellspawn, we at least try to hide it. That way, when little 8 year old Johnny whose prefrontal cortex is being wired with a lifelong predisposition to certain cultural values and cognitions, watches all this happen, he doesn't get the impression that it's acceptable to act like Donald Trump. You know, making fun of disabled people, scamming suckers, suing everyone you can, and insulting the physical appearance of your peers.
I think Little Johnny should have better parents who teach about "Entertainment", and media. So you want Trump to lie about his use of the system like Hillary? LOL , Trump is running a campaign where he is TRUMP. The guy who has been in the media since forever. Capitalism may not be a perfect system , but for AMERICA it works. The problem is the government corruption behind it. I wasn't for TARP or any of the bail outs. I think it's disgusting.

However, America is a super power because of the systems in place. If you think any different , well I'll call you "Johnny". Anyone who took a econ class knows the monetary value system is a joke. This is America though , if we want to remain a super power- someone is going to get hurt.


Also, your commentary on it sounds very Utopian. It all sounds good and all , but it never works. WE are HUMAN
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