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Old 08-14-2016, 03:24 AM
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He was the best actor, but he couldn't save it. Too much to carry in it.
Who was getting carried?

How was Margot Robbie as Quinn? I haven't seen any of her movies outside Wolf of Brostreet.

Comments on Jared Leto? Should I see this movie?
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Who was getting carried?

How was Margot Robbie as Quinn? I haven't seen any of her movies outside Wolf of Brostreet.

Comments on Jared Leto? Should I see this movie?
She wasn't quirky in the Quinn way and was more annoying than anything. She even had some serious, dramatic parts that were ooc and horribly forced. Leto doesn't need to be Joker ever again. That was proly the worst I've seen him in a role, and I wasn't expecting a Ledger-esque performance from him. I am factoring in the club-OG style they designed for Joker too which was really ooc for Joker. They really butchered the characters, sadly. If you planned on seeing it then wait until you can rent it or dl it to save a few bucks. I don't suggest it tho'.
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Old 08-14-2016, 03:39 PM
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The only movies I'd want to see--IF I cared--right now are Star Trek Beyond, Hell or High Water and Don't Breathe. I think ti's sad the new Ghostbusters isn't doing well. I thought about going to see it, but I don't watch movies very often. In fact, I've seen only a handful in all my life. Not a moviegoer! But damn, I wish it had done better. It looked ok to me from the trailers, not that I ever care about trailers.
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Hurr, durr, the movie did not fail because of the casting (the featured gimmick and only real premise of the movie) it failed cuz it was bad.

Of course a movie with an all female lead cast could be good, if the all female casting was coincidental or necessary. Thing is: it wasn't. No affirmative action film is ever going to be as good as a film that bends to artistic constraints first instead.

The movie failed because it was nothing more than an attempt to join the feedback loop of one of the creepier "social activist" "movements" of our day to generate what the illuminati at the top of Sony felt were guaranteed profits. In a sense attempting to use DARPA brainwashing for their movie's marketing campaign.
So you think it would have been better with one or two female ghostbusters? Don't you think it's sexist though by its nature to suggest having an all female cast is a probelm? It shouldn't. We should be blind to gender when judging a movie.
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No surprise it flopped. The script writer and director could have made a reboot, with women, and had it work if they put some legitimate effort into the story and dialogue. Answering questions like "what things about the supernatural fascinates the different characters?", "what motivations do the characters have in developing / using technology to hunt and trap ghosts?", "why and how much will be borrowed or referenced from the first movie set?", "what story theme are we trying to get across to the viewers?", "what plot points and character moments will appeal to certain viewers that they will identify with?", and finally, "what 'hook' will work best in bringing the cast back for another sequel?"

But they didn't bother. They really didn't try at all to spend the hours necessary in answering some of those basic questions and how they would relate to each other when a final story was developed. It as just.... half assed crap. Movie viewers have seen GOOD films, including reboots, and can judge for themselves if something will be garbage rather than be threatened that they're being politically incorrect over something totally unrelated to movie quality.

Lastly, China makes up a HUGE number of viewers and revenue for films. They screwed up by not having an asian (Chinese would be best for max returns) lady as one of the four. China loves big explosions and CGI and stuff flying at them, but aren't big at all on black actors or a cast without an Asian to identify with. Just stating the obvious based on revenue facts.
I think China denied this film for some reason. It's a weird @%^&#$! reason too. So moviegoers in China didn't even get to see it. So that right there would explain a lot why this film didn't produce enough profits.

'Ghostbusters' Denied Release in China
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"It's been confirmed that Ghostbusters won't be coming to China, because they think it's not really that attractive to Chinese audiences," says one Chinese executive. "Most of the Chinese audience didn't see the first and second movies, so they don't think there's much market for it here."
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Old 08-14-2016, 04:37 PM
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The only movies I'd want to see--IF I cared--right now are Star Trek Beyond, Hell or High Water and Don't Breathe. I think ti's sad the new Ghostbusters isn't doing well. I thought about going to see it, but I don't watch movies very often. In fact, I've seen only a handful in all my life. Not a moviegoer! But damn, I wish it had done better. It looked ok to me from the trailers, not that I ever care about trailers.
The only reason I wish it had done better is so we could see a real remake with Aykroyd and Bill involved with Chris Pratt (if he tones down the millennial punk routine a little bit for this movie and ages himself up, hes in his 30's but acts like hes 17 in every movie. I've never seen him play his age and Ghostbusters would have been a good platform for him alongside venerables like Aykroyd and Murray.)

And I guess Channing Tatum's casting was fine, although I look at Chris Pratt and Channing Tatum's comedies as exactly the same archtype,

So no idea why they had casted Chris Pratt and Channing Tatum together. But I would have liked to see it, since word is Aykrod and Murray were going to be involved.

This movie failing cost us the entire franchise for now.
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So you think it would have been better with one or two female ghostbusters? Don't you think it's sexist though by its nature to suggest having an all female cast is a probelm? It shouldn't. We should be blind to gender when judging a movie.
They remade a full male cast with a full female cast in an era of social justice and gender issues at the forefront of many political issues. It is absolutely not sexist to point out that they politicized a movie reboot.
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They remade a full male cast with a full female cast in an era of social justice and gender issues at the forefront of many political issues. It is absolutely not sexist to point out that they politicized a movie reboot.
This. The movie and its subsequent marketing and promotion was politicized by Sony Pictures.

Unfortunately SJWs couldn't carry the whole thing on their backs, and now everyone is left disappointed. The consumer, the creator, and the investor.
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So you think it would have been better with one or two female ghostbusters? Don't you think it's sexist though by its nature to suggest having an all female cast is a probelm? It shouldn't. We should be blind to gender when judging a movie.
"safety lights are for dudes". sure, liking Ghostbusters: Class Struggle Edition is being blind to gender.

Never said an all-female cast is a fundamental problem. The problem is that the director and producers were clearly using gender politics for a marketing angle instead of worrying about making a decent movie. You can accuse me of being a sexist for not deliberately lobotomizing myself and ignoring the obvious because you heard on TV that it's more important to virtue signal about being "gender blind" than to be a functional human if you want.

How insulting it is to the audience to assume they are more concerned with dogshit Marxist politics than seeing a decent film when they go to purchase a ticket. But hey, that's how stupid these fucks believe the mass of humanity is. That is how much contempt they have for human life.

The failure of this movie is actually a pretty damn good sign. Indicates that the reach of gender d&c brainwashing is significantly weaker than estimated by the (((executives))) at Sony -- executives that are intimately plugged in to deeper talmudic concerns, if you recall the email leak. Chink in the armor.
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"safety lights are for dudes". sure, liking Ghostbusters: Class Struggle Edition is being blind to gender.

Never said an all-female cast is a fundamental problem. The problem is that the director and producers were clearly using gender politics for a marketing angle instead of worrying about making a decent movie. You can accuse me of being a sexist for not deliberately lobotomizing myself and ignoring the obvious because you heard on TV that it's more important to virtue signal about being "gender blind" than to be a functional human if you want.

How insulting it is to the audience to assume they are more concerned with dogshit Marxist politics than seeing a decent film when they go to purchase a ticket. But hey, that's how stupid these fucks believe the mass of humanity is. That is how much contempt they have for human life.

The failure of this movie is actually a pretty damn good sign. Indicates that the reach of gender d&c brainwashing is significantly weaker than estimated by the (((executives))) at Sony -- executives that are intimately plugged in to deeper talmudic concerns, if you recall the email leak. Chink in the armor.
Big post. Woke.
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