smoking age is 21 now in California

[Baler]

Originally Posted by barrettdc1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny, cause I've met more fucking moron 30+ year olds in my life than 18 year olds.

This is the amazing part. I agree & it is not even on a poltical, moral, religious or etc. These are just people are stupid at life.

They somehow grow up and all of a sudden their 'opinion' matters.

[Pokesan]

smoking rules ya dweebs

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Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

smoking rules ya dweebs

It is funny you say that you trollllll

When I smoked everyday. After a meal a I HAD to smoke. it wasn't just a normal desire it was a must. So after dinner each night i'd pop outside for a smoke.

(because smoking inside makes everything smell like shit)

[Pokesan]

I wish I still smoked it was cool and good [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Historically people had to survive on their own at 18 or younger and the species survived. Not sure why modern people can't be expected to sink or swim and learn to survive in this world by living the hard experience of figuring it out for themselves. Not saying anything about hunting and gathering or some shit, but experience and struggle are great teachers and developers of character. Coddling, not so much.

Not related to smoking age, but just putting it out there.

Infantilization ...Brave New World....Blah blah blah.

Saw a huffpo article recently where they called all of the sodomites 21+ at the Saturnalia orgy in Orlando kids and children. It was cringe worthy.

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Infantilization ...Brave New World....Blah blah blah.

Saw a huffpo article recently where they called all of the sodomites 21+ at the Saturnalia orgy in Orlando kids and children. It was cringe worthy.

Redefining language. A very typical leftist activity.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the fact that the part of your brain that allows you to plan ahead doesn't fully develop until you are a at least 24 (there is a bigger difference between 18 and 21 than there is between 21 and 28), means nothing to you? Because to me, it seems highly relevant when deciding when people are able to be fully responsible for themselves. You can argue that 18 allows you to be responsible enough. But the legal definition of adult is highly misleading to a lot of people. People don't even look the same at 18 as they do when they are fully grown.

I always thought it was funny how bigger people (north euro mostly Scandinavians) weren't fully developed until their early 20's mid 20's yet, there is this domineering expectation and queerness in high school (and society of course) that you are done growing at 18, an adult, must lose virginity, must use drugs, etc.

I graduated high school at 171 pounds. Didn't fill out until 23-24, and finish by 25-26. I sit at a lean 220 without any weight training maintenance. My hip/waist was a 28 at 18, its now a pant size 38 (42 inch waist) pure structure, no fat. That's how much maturity and growth takes place among people from 18-28.

Can't help but feel that the 18 thing was made for either:

1) Women, or

2) Manlets and short stubby people with black hair and brown eyes

Count me as not surprised the brain is also nowhere near developed by that age either. The differences in physicality among many genetic types is plainly obvious in males.

Females are a whole nother story. The 18 thing seems to apply pretty firmly to them. 21 tops.

[Nihilist_santa]

People are just functional morons now Azzar. Someone who is 24 cant run a bath for themselves now but 100 years ago you would be on your way to being a grandpa and would have been working your own farm or business or some shit since about 17. If you couldn't figure it out by then you died.

[AzzarTheGod]

Definitely I noticed that each high school class during the 1999-2004 era got younger, smaller, more immature, and less able to perform athletically. This is not just my perception because I can also use athletic accomplishments to certify my perception.

The 2 classes above me were stacked with mass monsters, my class itself won the state superbowl. (Our running back got full ride to Harvard and made Captain of the team there. This isn't your average high school football)

The 3 classes below me did absolutely nothing in any sport. No athletic accomplishments and they were all incredibly immature, autistic, and small and lithe for their age. And behaviorally, they had no swagger to speak of. Real husks, no soul.

If physicality is any indication, people are taking longer to mature overall and 30 has become the new 20 in more ways than one.

[Ahldagor]

California is broke. Increase the smoking age to 21 and let the fine monies roll in. Pretty basic.