Nag's Lair, Royals Camp

[Neno]

Originally Posted by Taysh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

#7 Royals = 3 camps is a player based creation, just like how they say Hands is Warlord. WRONG. A physical body must be in the camp.

Project 1999 Staff will not be defining what constitutes a camp. Instead, Project 1999 Customer Service Staff will arbitrate spawn disputes on a per-case-basis. We greatly encourage players to find their own resolution to spawn disputes, as the solution provided by the staff will at best be a win-lose situation, and possbily a lose-lose situation. No two decisions, even at the same 'camp', are guaranteed to be the same, as we will take into account multiple factors in making a determination on a 'camp'.

That being said, you can absolutely "camp" mobs, and you cannot steal another players 'camp'. In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders cleared. You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it. It should also be noted that if you camp out or leave the zone, you have forfeited a camp. You cannot hold multiple 'camps' if another group wishes to contest one that you are holding. The player holding multiple 'camps' retains the right to choose which 'camp' to give up.

KPC is interesting because it is made up of 3 "rooms" that are very near to each other. The rooms are more akin to cliffs/ledges that all sit inside a larger volcanic chamber. However, the areas do not connect directly to each other and instead all 3 areas connect to the same hallway. So it comes down to the definition of what is "very near to the spawn". Seb Crypt works in a similar way to KPC. 4 Rooms connecting to a larger room. In the past it was very possible for a single person to make their way down to the crypt and contest the herio spawn even with another group in the area.

If both "camps" work the same way then the group that was in champ would have had to move into the king room in order to claim king after the king spawn was contested. If you can no longer contest herio while a group is in the crypt then you probably wouldn't be able to contest king with a group sitting in champ.

[Xxmethodxx]

Ledge room in Droga is one camp with 3 seperate spawn points and a ledge and is and has always been a single camp. How is this any different. KPC/Royals has ALWAYS been a single camp since the beginning of EQ time. I am sorry a group had it capmed and you wanted to fine print your way through it and I am sorry that the group didnt want your help with EXP even if there were other camps open. Maybe with the lawyerquesting and rules on this server you MAY have a complaint on a technicallity but trying to shake up the way the community has done things for almost 2 decades because you didnt want to wait for your shitty item speaks for itself. You arent doing yourself any favors here trying to convince everyone you arent being a entitled whiner. I am curious in this 7 or 8 pages have you many people that agree with you? Maybe that should make you realize something

[Erazmus]

I just can't imagine wanting an item so badly you'd be willing to destroy your server reputation by walking in someone's camp and saying, "This specific spawn point is mine." Seems kind of silly to me.

As others have said. There was a group already there, and they weren't willing to concede any spawns. There really isn't a grey area here, unless you want to go full retard.

[Taysh]

Originally Posted by Erazmus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just can't imagine wanting an item so badly you'd be willing to destroy your server reputation by walking in someone's camp and saying, "This specific spawn point is mine." Seems kind of silly to me.

As others have said. There was a group already there, and they weren't willing to concede any spawns. There really isn't a grey area here, unless you want to go full retard.

Guess what, it wasn't their camp. That's that you all are missing. Not to mention the group broke up due to either unable to keep up with it all after they lost a member.

[Izzni]

Originally Posted by Taysh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...when it popped, they came in and [pulled] it...

Originally Posted by Taysh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to mention the group broke up due to either unable to keep up with it all after they lost a member.

So what you are saying is that if you waited patiently, instead of griefing the experience group, you would have ended up with whatever crap you were after in the same amount of time.

The other benefits of having had waited would have been:
-The experience group would have had a more enjoyable time playing EQ.
-You could have gained experience or loot by holding another camp while waiting.
-You would have not further ruined your reputation on the server, such as it is.
-You wouldn't be quite so upset, which would reduce the number of times that you've said you are going to stop posting by at least half.

I'm sure I'm missing many other benefits.

[Taysh]

Originally Posted by Izzni [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what you are saying is that if you waited patiently, instead of griefing the experience group, you would have ended up with whatever crap you were after in the same amount of time.

The other benefits of having had waited would have been:
-The experience group would have had a more enjoyable time playing EQ.
-You could have gained experience or loot by holding another camp while waiting.
-You would have not further ruined your reputation on the server, such as it is.
-You wouldn't be quite so upset, which would reduce the number of times that you've said you are going to stop posting by at least half.

I'm sure I'm missing many other benefits.

- The experience group would have had way more EXP and loot if they weren't complete assholes from the start. I went to talk to them first, and asked them which camp they were in. Reply? Champion room.

- I wasn't gaining any exp, I was there at lvl 58 for a single Mob, which I offered to buy from them if they had any previous ones. No one even needed it in fact, they just wanted to be stubborn like children screaming THIS IS OUR CAMP GTFO.

- You really think I care, about what some people over a 17 year old game who drool over girls who have to feel important by having people watch them play EQ on twitch? - Why would I be upset over this, actually I find joy in watching you people come out of no where with your little comments about how I am an asshole?

- Lmao @ Reputation. What do I need? A raid guild, so i can sit in raids for hours wasting my nights over items with higher digital numbers than other players gear with numbers? Does that what makes me elite? L33t Gamers coming through, damn, shouldn't of hurt my reputation, now I will never have those l33t loots from 17 years ago. Hahahah what a joke.

The funniest part is these people who try to be white knights in front of girl gamers. Lmfao. Humanity is pathetic.

[Landylil]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC474733/

[Spyder73]

You should try Red99 Taysh, you seem to fit the profile for the community...

Sociopath? Check
Piece of sh!t? Check
Brain Problems/Broken Brain? Check
Owner of multiple Fedora's? Unconfirmed but probable...

[Taysh]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should try Red99 Taysh, you seem to fit the profile for the community...

Sociopath? Check
Piece of sh!t? Check
Brain Problems/Broken Brain? Check
Owner of multiple Fedora's? Unconfirmed but probable...

Write a story about it.

[Landylil]

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