Should this server allow boxing of level 1 characters only?

[myriverse]

Nope. There's barely even a point to grouping at level 1.

[Nirgon]

even less people knew about/used item recharging during this era

[JackFlash]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

even less people knew about/used item recharging during this era

[Thulack]

My whole family played EQ. My stepdad brought it home in August of 99 and along with my mom and little brother we all played. We had 2 computers and Cable internet(my dad worked for a cellphone company so they hooked all their employees up because he had to work from home sometimes). Usually my parents would play together and then if it wasnt too late my brother and i would get to play. We also rotated account when needed because we only had 2. My brother played on my dads and i played on my moms. We would box each others characters when needed since PC's were right next to each other on desk. My experience is completely not classic to many but was my way of life for years. Saying this i still feel this server is right about no boxing and its one of the reasons that the server is so successful because they have stuck to it. I spent more hours in EC then i care to imagine. While yes i'm sure there are some people that are boxing against the rules and have a toon sitting there the number i'm sure is less then you would think.I also think it should stay this way for the integrity of the server.

[Izmael]

I quit Live EQ in 2002 and I can guarantee that very little boxing was going on. Probably under 5% of people would do it as their primary play style. I led a raiding guild back then so I suppose I have a solid view of what people did.

First, leveling up a second character to 65 (I think the limit was) wasn't taking a couple weeks like today, it took many months for the common folk. So only the most hardcore players would dedicate time to do it.

Second, additional account would cost additional subscription money. Also, adjusting for inflation, $15 in 2002 would be about $20 today.

Third, you needed a 2nd comp and comps were expensive back then.

TLDR: Boxing is evil.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I quit Live EQ in 2002 and I can guarantee that very little boxing was going on. Probably under 5% of people would do it as their primary play style. I led a raiding guild back then so I suppose I have a solid view of what people did.

First, leveling up a second character to 65 (I think the limit was) wasn't taking a couple weeks like today, it took many months for the common folk. So only the most hardcore players would dedicate time to do it.

Second, additional account would cost additional subscription money. Also, adjusting for inflation, $15 in 2002 would be about $20 today.

Third, you needed a 2nd comp and comps were expensive back then.

TLDR: Boxing is evil.

Bullshit flag is thrown. In 2002, it was probably closer to 15-20% people truly actively boxed with an additional character or more. However, if you added the amount of people with a "mule account" that they had an EC mule, power level mule, rez mule, port mule etc. the number goes far, far higher.

And your logic, if you want to call it that, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The longer it takes to level up, the more people will resolve to boxing because they don't want to get through all that bullshit again.

[Izmael]

Bottom line is, there will be boxing on P99 as per dev statement.

It kills immersion, is non-classic and there are plenty of other servers that allow boxing (unsurprisingly, they suck compared to P99 - maybe precisely because of boxing).

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bottom line is, there will be boxing on P99 as per dev statement.

It kills immersion, is non-classic and there are plenty of other servers that allow boxing (unsurprisingly, they suck compared to P99 - maybe precisely because of boxing).

Sorry, it IS CLASSIC. It doesn't kill immersion because EC is already stuffed full of low level mule characters trying to buy/sell anyway. This thread isn't about boxing generically; it's specifically about allowing boxing with an account that is only allowed to have level 1 characters on it.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, it IS CLASSIC. It doesn't kill immersion because EC is already stuffed full of low level mule characters trying to buy/sell anyway. This thread isn't about boxing generically; it's specifically about allowing boxing with an account that is only allowed to have level 1 characters on it.

Again i ask how do you enforce such a rule? You are all for changing things but have yet to say how it should be enforced.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again i ask how do you enforce such a rule? You are all for changing things but have yet to say how it should be enforced.