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Old 03-31-2016, 02:05 AM
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being born a citizen, whether by jus soli or the these days ignominious jus sanguinis, seems to quite easily qualify the 'natural born' part of the question.

born as a citizen. the mechanism doesn't matter, he's been a citizen since birth.

and your link doesn't work!
It works for me, hits the notes of the page, just scroll up to where the paragraph is in front of (25)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...w#cite_note-25

Oh you mean the Yale Law Journal PDF link? hmm.. I think that can be found from here. ...at least for a preview. Certainly discussions around about it.

As for the wiki it reads:
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In her 1988 article in the Yale Law Journal, Jill Pryor wrote, "It is well settled that 'native-born' citizens, those born in the United States, qualify as natural born. It is also clear that persons born abroad of alien parents, who later become citizens by naturalization, do not. But whether a person born abroad of American parents, or of one American and one alien parent, qualifies as natural born has never been resolved."[25]
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my instinct is to ask you to knock it off with tbe birther shit but on the other hand it would be super funny for the monster to bite the other way

im conflicted!
Like I said, I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just stating that it's there. I'm not actually calling for it to happen. As it is there, I'm adding it to my scenario list, at least as a possibility as there seems to be some sliver of legitimacy to it, not simply the legitimacy of my own personal opinion.
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Old 03-31-2016, 03:32 AM
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my instinct is to ask you to knock it off with tbe birther shit but on the other hand it would be super funny for the monster to bite the other way

im conflicted!
wheres the delivery certificate big boi?
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Old 03-31-2016, 03:49 AM
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wheres the delivery certificate big boi?
Well yeah, thats why when I brouhgt this up in the RHINO thread, I mentioned they could do it "with a vengeance". That being the whole past situation with B0's B-day certy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Oddly, the one they produced seemingly having been filled out in a modern word processor... hehehe
...so some claim.
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:18 AM
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Well yeah, thats why when I brouhgt this up in the RHINO thread, I mentioned they could do it "with a vengeance". That being the whole past situation with B0's B-day certy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Oddly, the one they produced seemingly having been filled out in a modern word processor... hehehe
...so some claim.
He failed to produce a delivery certificate from the hospital with the doctors signature.

Anyone can get a birth certificate.
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Old 03-31-2016, 05:59 AM
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Have a link for what a "delivery certificate" is? pref an American site. Or used in the matter of 0bama?

Seems to be one in the same as legal sites redirect to birth certificate from search. Google searches bring up old archives, but removed, and those mostly blog sites. Found this... where it used both birth and delivery certs as interchangeably (first birth then delivery but same document being read).

Digging deeper, where delivery certificate is used, it mentioned the same as what was said about the birth certificate, that being a scanned photo etc. Wikipedia doesn't know, and pages regarding the issue with 0bama's birth conundrum make no mention of delivery certificate. Yeah I followed this from back in the day, I don't recall any mention of a delivery cert or of it being missing, and I have a pretty good memory *shrugs*
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:20 AM
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voting for trump.
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Old 03-31-2016, 10:36 AM
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Even if he has a 'birthcertificate' he isn't anymore American then the illegals crossing the southern border.

Ask yourself if George Washington or Thomas Jefferson would have considered Obama 'American'... lawlz
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Old 03-31-2016, 12:00 PM
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Even if he has a 'birthcertificate' he isn't anymore American then the illegals crossing the southern border.

Ask yourself if George Washington or Thomas Jefferson would have considered Obama 'American'... lawlz
So you guys have decided to go Full Retard Mode and claim the Birther argument. No fucking judge on U.S. Soil would disqualify a Party's Predidential Nominee this late in the game. If a judge did this he would be signing his own death warrant and end of America. We all saw in the Bush/Gore election how apeshit people got with SCOTUS and that. Time for a reality check boys. The courts have already set precedent with Obama's birth question and the precedent was, They're not getting involved.
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Old 03-31-2016, 12:10 PM
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The SCOTUS is a joke. Since when did the SCOTUS become the countries moral compass? This is the same institution who issued the Miller decision stripping away the 2nd Amendment all in the name of procedure and following policy.

As far as I am concerned, neither The Constitution nor SCOTUS is the highest law of the land, The Declaration of Independence is. My proof? It has it's own holiday.
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Old 03-31-2016, 12:19 PM
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