My suggestion can fix the blue raid scene. Permanently.

[RDawg816]

Originally Posted by Alanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am more surprised that so many people are willing to be on call 24/7 for pixels in an emulated game.

Unfortunately that's how most of the raiding is done. I certainly don't share that mindset. If I'm online and the mob is up, cool. If I'm not, oh well.

I have had friends message me on FB or text to get me to log in though. It's usually to help with a transfer, rez/port someone, etc. Stuff I can do while eating, watching TV, etc. and not be a liability.

I enjoy the game, but for me it's more about the journey and the social aspect. I would rather brag/talk with my friends about how I soloed a named, kept the group alive with my awesomeness, etc. than camp in TT for 12 hours waiting on a dragon that's "in window." YMMV

[zanderklocke]

"Once Velious is released, all of the problems in the raid scene will be fixed because you can't just mow down mobs with more than 32K HP." [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Vallanor]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Once Velious is released, all of the problems in the raid scene will be fixed because you can't just mow down mobs with more than 32K HP." [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd argue Velious did fix a lot of problems from the casual-for-p99-but-not-really-casual raider's perspective. Sure the highest-end Velious mobs are a shit show, but guilds like CSG and Anonymous and Paradigm Shift are actually seeing content without an enforced class system. It still requires a lot of neckbeard even on the lower end, but I think it's hard to say Velious hasn't made things objectively better.

[Raev]

Of course they did. The server has perhaps 1/5 of the content needed to keep everyone happy (it was 1/10 in Kunark). The staff could have made any number of changes: reducing the spawn time of raid mobs or giving tokens to do spawn them (sure, it's not classic, but neither is variance), improving the method of competition (simultaneous repops, maybe temporarily making zones PVP, /guildwar, etc), forcing a rotation, or even doing nothing. Most Classic mobs have no variance, so the players eventually would have worked out a rotation after the 50th Trakanon desynch with 500 players in the zone.

Instead they implemented variance, which gives raid targets to whoever is willing to sit there staring at the screen the longest and form massive multinational zergs to kill raid targets 24/7. The huge artificial timesinks of variance and dubious petitionquest directly poisoned the raid scene until everyone hates everyone else over that one time they kited/trained/otherwise broke some rule, probably intentionally because they figured people wouldn't be frapsing (plus it drives out the 'normal' people who just want to play the game).

This mess is 100% the staff's fault. The players are simply reacting to the situation they have created. If I had control over the situation I could clean things up within a month, easily.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I had control over the situation I could clean things up within a month, easily.

That's so easy to type, isn't it?

[Raev]

Code up respawning 1/3 of the world at once with anti-campout code. Increase spawn times a bit, remove variance, and enforce as GM a rotation. Enforce PNP. It's really not rocket science. Which is why I say the raid scene is this way because the staff as a whole want it to be this way.

I know the staff put a huge amount of unpaid time into this server, and I'm very appreciative. I still like playing here. I'm a tracking/FTE scrub, so I just show up and occasionally (very occasionally!) loot things. And as stated earlier I don't get up for batphones. That leaves me free to putz around in Sirens Grotto or POM or wherever most of the time.

[Swish]

How many staff would this require? 10? 20? Players all required to install fraps?

When do people get to have fun? Better make some rules about it.

[Cecily]

Great question, Swish! Fun will be allowed 6pm to 10pm EST Mon-Fri, 9am to 12am Sat, and there will be no fun on Sunday.

[Raev]

I don't know how to respond to this. Your post has no logical connection to mine.

<shrug>

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know how to respond to this. Your post has no logical connection to mine.

<shrug>

Sure it does. You're demanding a highly policed server requiring so many volunteer hours it's borderline ridiculous.

It's a game.... (say that a few times and think about it for a moment)