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Old 02-24-2016, 11:37 AM
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Ok so same one.

What if the State of Texas pays to issue everyone new IDs and provides assistance to low income families in tracking down birth certificates as proof of citizenship? Is it still racist, or does it become sensible?
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Old 02-24-2016, 11:44 AM
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Ok so same one.

What if the State of Texas pays to issue everyone new IDs and provides assistance to low income families in tracking down birth certificates as proof of citizenship? Is it still racist, or does it become sensible?
where is texas getting the funds for this outrageous spending increase and how many cases of voter fraud do you expect to prevent annually?
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Old 02-24-2016, 11:49 AM
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What is also stopping texas from discriminating based on other things?

What we have now at the federal level and proposed by some progressive people isn't that bad.

The thing is we have to naturalize and get these people on board and raise their wages so they stop inflating the economy artificially

the problem with capitalism it doesn't work if everything is based on a lie, because then the only check and balance capitalism has is bullshit. No one can make an informed economic decision if the kind of slavery we have goes overlooked because "It's too much money or to risky" to fix.

People are valuable, using people who are valuable to increase the value of civilization is what the smart people who get $$ do.

This is not what is happening in our society. We're throwing people away and were giving $$ to fucking morons and hypocrites. Because WE fucking people don't know any better.

Yes some scummy lords and lordettes out there, but even they have some intrinsic value to society. Just not in the way that is obvious to the normies.

That doesn't mean handing out free passes. But it does mean we need a system that recognizes and supports "humanity" and human kind. And values people rather than looks on people as just consumers.
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Old 02-24-2016, 11:52 AM
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where is texas getting the funds for this outrageous spending increase and how many cases of voter fraud do you expect to prevent annually?
See, I like this. We agree fraud is bad. You just don't think it is pervasive. We agree racism is bad. I just don't think it is pervasive. We agree spending frivolously is bad. We just don't agree on what is frivolous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To your question though, no, i would not support a program like the one above because people can already obtain photo ID easily and ought to do so on their own. If it would allay fears of prejudice and allow us to move forward though, I could see it as a compromise.
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:00 PM
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The prevalence of voter fraud is not a matter of opinion though.
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:06 PM
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Of course not, as with all unreported crime, we know exactly how prevalent it is.
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:10 PM
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Let's focus on solving actual problems before moving on to hypothetical ones.
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:21 PM
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Deal. Ill stuff voter's rights in the "solved" bin with sexism, racism and homophobia.

What's next to ignore?
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:33 PM
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I was referring to voter fraud, thanks for a very confusing reply?
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:46 PM
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To bad mellon wasn't on my incoherent list cus that post is a gem.
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