TMO, Bluebies who tried Red! Give me your horror stories of grief and despair

[Raev]

The 10 reasons are all 'the toxic community'. When I tried Red I really wanted to like it if only to escape the idiocy known as variance. I even transferred like 200k blue pp over. But I concluded I would rather stab my eye out with a sharp pencil then spend significant time with the people that inhabit that server.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The 10 reasons are all 'the toxic community'. When I tried Red I really wanted to like it if only to escape the idiocy known as variance. I even transferred like 200k blue pp over. But I concluded I would rather stab my eye out with a sharp pencil then spend significant time with the people that inhabit that server.

May I have your stuff?

[veemoda]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would guess half the server are very depressed and lonely individuals.

[brecon]

The biggest problem for a leveling character is if a 'PVPer' finds you, they will make sure you leave the zone. They don't really care how - they want the kill, but if you take an xp death or plug, they are okay with that too. If they start losing the encounter, they will just train your group and kill everyone. Beastagor is famous for fearing your pets (even OOR characters), then trying to snipe a YT during the confusion...nevermind the fact that the entire group will wipe as a result.

Also, most PVPers don't care about taking an xp death (ex: Rogues). They'll get a rez. The YT is more important to them than the pain of moving over a cleric to get a rez.

Knowing that these are the scum you are dealing with, any tactic is legitimate. Don't force yourself to play by anyone else's rules. Camping to avoid PVP, running away, snaring mobs at the ZL are all legit tactics. I think these are the important things for a Blue player to know coming over: PVPers only attack when the odds are in their favor, so never allow them to take advantage of that.

The most fun I had was one day I was in a full xp leveling group with a druid, and this group of Empire wouldn't stop wandering around Norrath trying to prevent us from xping. They even came to Kedge Keep. We were all sub-60, most sub-56, and outmatched. So every time this group found us, we just ported out to our next XP location. They must have wasted 4 hours running around without a single engage.

[brecon]

edit: even when OOR characters are present. You can't fear an OOR toon's pet obvi.

[JurisDictum]

I don't know exactly how to put my finger on it. When I was younger I loved EQ PvP. Those feelings evaporated sometime after I played Vanilla WoW. One of the things I loved about WoW when it came out -- what that people actually would fight you! Skill was more important than gear. There wasn't so much BS insta-gating, plug-pulling, warping (it was really bad on SZ with the warps).

It just was never that good of a PvP game. I am also vaguely suspicious one of the reasons some people never quit EQ PvP -- is because that is the game they know how to hack on. EQ always had a huge problem with hacks that is completely absent in modern MMO PvP.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know exactly how to put my finger on it. When I was younger I loved EQ PvP. Those feelings evaporated sometime after I played Vanilla WoW. One of the things I loved about WoW when it came out -- what that people actually would fight you! Skill was more important than gear. There wasn't so much BS insta-gating, plug-pulling, warping (it was really bad on SZ with the warps).

It just was never that good of a PvP game. I am also vaguely suspicious one of the reasons some people never quit EQ PvP -- is because that is the game they know how to hack on. EQ always had a huge problem with hacks that is completely absent in modern MMO PvP.

untill u meet a enhacement shaman with windfury and all ur skill was moot when orc shamay force of nature or adamantite axe your face