Forsaken is a bait and switch guild, warning to all players

[Merekai]

Yikes, removed when criticism vocalized by a member? Sorry you had that experience. This makes me realize why I really love being in AG even though some top end-game items & encounters aren't always within reach. Good people I enjoy elf simming about with is the best.

Chevey

[Herp]

Interesting.

Why wouldnt they let a full member bid on loot? What did they say? Other than they "loot council" the good items to 15% of the guild for virtually no dkp loss. Seems like a lot of Forsaken are slaving away for a select few. The 'average Joe' is that guild doesn't seem very geared compared to BDA / Taken / etc.

I keep getting tells about Umbrella/Detoxx drama causing a guild split

Can a Forsaken PR person explain OPs situation. Whatd he do wrong? Looking for an answer when I wake up in 9.5 hours please, don't let me down like my mother did.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by Herp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why wouldnt they let a full member bid on loot? What did they say?

I could bid, but nothing was ever available. Over a period of 3 months there was nothing I could bid on. Everything either went to loot council or ended up split to Asgard since every single raid they're right there with us taking half the loot.

Other than they "loot council" the good items to 15% of the guild for virtually no dkp loss. Seems like a lot of Forsaken are slaving away for a select few.

Yep, thats how it works. Loot council gives everything good to a few people at little cost and they retain their DKP to outbid everyone on the rest of the stuff.

I keep getting tells about Umbrella/Detoxx drama causing a guild split

What happened is that Umbrella talked a bunch of shit to Giselle/Madmoiselle who selflessly updates all the Forsaken DKP information. Basically just treating her like any other member who isn't part of the inner circle, except he fucked up because everyone loves Madm and she almost solely makes the guild function. Tons of people complained, brought up the same old unanswered issues regarding loot council, etc, etc.

Detoxx was forced to demote Umbrella even though everyone wanted them out of the guild. No doubt they'll be back as an officer in a few months.

I'd love for a PR person to explain what I did wrong too. In my experience a guild full member forum is exactly the place to openly discuss issues you might have with the guild. I'm guessing Forsaken PR will claim I should have gone to an officer or something so they could sweep it under the rug.

I didn't want to talk to an officer, I wanted to talk to my guild.

[indiscriminate_hater]

"You have no idea how badly you just fucked yourself"

watch OP has a full level wizard, will fight u IRL

[Bardybard]

0% 30 day attendance
7 % 60 day
16% 90 day
11% lifetime

Get 25% 30 day to bid on an item. It's not hard.
Policies change and you're never around. Half of the guild doesn't even know
who you are. Your current behavior displays why you were kicked in the first place.
Don't be going ape shit because you feel loot rules should be catered to your personal situation.

"I was being all innocent and I got kicked! So I'm offering 500k plat to
anyone to attack them and hurt them."

Good riddance.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by Bardybard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

0% 30 day attendance
7 % 60 day
16% 90 day
11% lifetime

Get 25% 30 day to bid on an item. It's not hard.
Policies change and you're never around. Half of the guild doesn't even know
who you are. Your current behavior displays why you were kicked in the first place.
Don't be going ape shit because you feel loot rules should be catered to your personal situation.

"I was being all innocent and I got kicked! So I'm offering 500k plat to
anyone to attack them and hurt them."

Good riddance.

I had 40% 30 day attendance when I stopped showing up due to the policy changes involving loot council and so on. You know, the same policies that the private full member forum is full of people complaining about? The one I was removed for bringing up?

Remember when Detoxx said, "I'm starting this thread to allow people to discuss the new loot council changes since there have been a lot of complaints" and then after it was like 10 pages long of complaints with no real answers from any officers he came back in saying, "Ok we talked about it enough, the decision is final" and locked the thread?

You know about that, right?

What the fuck are you doing posting here anyway Bardybard? Don't you know its against guild rules?

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had 40% 30 day attendance when I stopped showing up due to the policy changes involving loot council and so on. You know, the same policies that the private full member forum is full of people complaining about? The one I was removed for bringing up?

Remember when Detoxx said, "I'm starting this thread to allow people to discuss the new loot council changes since there have been a lot of complaints" and then after it was like 10 pages long of complaints with no real answers from any officers he came back in saying, "Ok we talked about it enough, the decision is final" and locked the thread?

You know about that, right?

What the fuck are you doing posting here anyway Bardybard? Don't you know its against guild rules?

Umm, are you a good person? Are you enjoyable to hang around with? Why are none of those things being discussed.

Wow, I'm really sorry that Eq has been that for you.

You some consider apping elsewhere. What are your playtime hours, I can point you in the right direction.

[Lojik]

Don't know anything about the inner workings of forsaken, but I mean they have the reputation of a telemarketing/credit card company:
"You're already approved!"
"Great low interest rates!"
"Dkp packages available"
"Free rollover minutes! "
"Join in the next ten minutes and get a sleepers let FREE"

Just remember to read that small print lol. Getting 25% attendance for 30 days just to bid (if an items even up for bid? ) heck i play a fair amount for Ag now my 30 day% is like 20% due to work conflicts.

OP do you feel you've been...forsaken?

[disenchant]

Originally Posted by Bardybard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

0% 30 day attendance
7 % 60 day
16% 90 day
11% lifetime

Get 25% 30 day to bid on an item. It's not hard.
Policies change and you're never around. Half of the guild doesn't even know
who you are. Your current behavior displays why you were kicked in the first place.
Don't be going ape shit because you feel loot rules should be catered to your personal situation.

"I was being all innocent and I got kicked! So I'm offering 500k plat to
anyone to attack them and hurt them."

Good riddance.

these numbers state you only played about 16 days out of 90, there's no way that's correct... seriously, to this I LOL!

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Bardybard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

0% 30 day attendance
7 % 60 day
16% 90 day
11% lifetime

Get 25% 30 day to bid on an item. It's not hard.
Policies change and you're never around. Half of the guild doesn't even know
who you are. Your current behavior displays why you were kicked in the first place.
Don't be going ape shit because you feel loot rules should be catered to your personal situation.

"I was being all innocent and I got kicked! So I'm offering 500k plat to
anyone to attack them and hurt them."

Good riddance.

If these RA numbers are believed this is why you get no loot, you dont show up to raid.