Open petition to reduce variance to +/- 4 hours

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Jfertal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

swish I've tried red cool man, wasn't for me, why dont you try giving the public some feed back instead of bashing blue, and promoting red.

We understand there are many differences between blue and red, but you sit here on blue forums and just bash our server versus yours. Both which are totally different, no ifs and or buts. What do you think would help out blue? Seriously, we all love p99 here, red or blue, but it seems like you just want to bash individual players, instead of even adding any type positive contributions. it just fuck chest, fuck bda, fuck blue, go red.

If you wanted people to give two shits about what you say, well, go ahead man...floors is yours.

That was very concise, thank you. PvP offers an extra dimension to EverQuest. Not only are you immersed with getting your pve gear sorted but also to get your resists to the best they can be. That's no easy task on red, but enduring that task will make you a much better player. Camping your own gear is far more rewarding than sitting in EC waiting for it to appear.

No loot lines or camp lines, the biggest step for people is starting over from scratch in a world where you start off as a small fish. If you can endure that and prosper, you've conquered one of the hardest things on either side of this emulator.

Funny how 16 years on from launch some people can be stubborn about learning something new (pvp mechanics etc). Starting on red was probably the best thing I've done in the world of P99 since I got here back in 2010.

Maybe you won't consider red today.

Maybe you won't consider red tomorrow.

But you'll probably consider red....because for some of us here, playing 5 years of the same thing requires broadening our horizons to keep things interesting <3

In the meantime, make sure you join the back of the class queue for your favorite zerg guild - and remember to kiss up and attack me on the forums daily like BDA if you need to score points for loot council pixels [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Cecily]

You red guys ever consider getting people to join red by being cool and normal instead of weird missionaries?

[gummab]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was very concise, thank you. PvP offers an extra dimension to EverQuest. Not only are you immersed with getting your pve gear sorted but also to get your resists to the best they can be. That's no easy task on red, but enduring that task will make you a much better player. Camping your own gear is far more rewarding than sitting in EC waiting for it to appear.

No loot lines or camp lines, the biggest step for people is starting over from scratch in a world where you start off as a small fish. If you can endure that and prosper, you've conquered one of the hardest things on either side of this emulator.

Funny how 16 years on from launch some people can be stubborn about learning something new (pvp mechanics etc). Starting on red was probably the best thing I've done in the world of P99 since I got here back in 2010.

Maybe you won't consider red today.

Maybe you won't consider red tomorrow.

But you'll probably consider red....because for some of us here, playing 5 years of the same thing requires broadening our horizons to keep things interesting <3

In the meantime, make sure you join the back of the class queue for your favorite zerg guild - and remember to kiss up and attack me on the forums daily like BDA if you need to score points for loot council pixels [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't understand,you went back to red 3months ago and spammed forums about how shit blue is.Then last week done a U turn and want back on blue.
Which is it?

[Cecily]

I suppose it's human nature to think how you have fun is the best possible way and to think those who disagree are sick and of need of help. I, too, tried to save some souls on Bertoxx after I quit for Lineage II. That went... poorly haha.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by gummab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't understand,you went back to red 3months ago and spammed forums about how shit blue is.Then last week done a U turn and want back on blue.
Which is it?

I take it you were one of the advocates for trying to get "afk" people's points wiped? After being one of the vocal minority who didn't want dkp in the first place that's a big U-turn for you isn't it Gummab?

What did the officers say about not stirring up internal drama on the forums? PM me if this is really an issue for you. You sound jaded.

Very much on red if I could play, but I can't play. If red ever collapses or Rogean decides to shut it down or wipe it... it's good to know that those points are still there. Feel free to quote me in a PM to Gridfire <3

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You red guys ever consider getting people to join red by being cool and normal instead of weird missionaries?

Come back Cecily (said in a cool and normal way) <3

[radda]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You red guys ever consider getting people to join red by being cool and normal instead of weird missionaries?

[Culkasi]

Reduced variance is not the solution, earthquakes (or any solution that makes mobs spawn a the same time) is. 16 hour windows is the only thing that gives any casual or semi-casual guild legit shots at some of the mobs because top dogs have to prioritize their resources.

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reduced variance is not the solution, earthquakes (or any solution that makes mobs spawn a the same time) is. 16 hour windows is the only thing that gives any casual or semi-casual guild legit shots at some of the mobs because top dogs have to prioritize their resources.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically casual guilds negociated a 16 hour full guild poop sock every week. Kind of a nightmare. 2 hour or 4, you're ensuring an all hands on deck sock fest every spawn. Please don't support that. Personally, I would like a return to extremely long windows and extended variance to discourage the savagery we descended into at the end Kunark.

These two get it. Long spawns make it so certain tiered guilds remain in certain parts of the game. Unlikely to find rampage/forsaken/asgard outside of northwing sun-tues. Should the spawns shorten up so they all ended up on sunday, it becomes why not kill that VS/trakanon/whatever is up on a monday. Conversely it prevents shitshows of every motherfucker in northwing making a mess of everything

[zanderklocke]

I think casual players think that reducing variance would allow them to go for targets, but in reality, this will cause 200+ people to be waiting at the zone line to kill mobs for every single target in the game. This is not a good idea in terms of training and petitions.

Variance itself is pretty stupid because it causes people to do irregular things not good for health. Sitting and starring at your computer for 16 hours is probably not conducive to postive general health and well being. Also, it turns the game into something incredibly unfun that can also hurt real life priorities if you have to be available at a moment's notice all day.

Honestly, the only thing that probably is an improvement for everyone, including the staff in regards to petitions, is mobs all spawning at the same time.