Discussion on 20 minute engage rule for undead bard (trak guts) when next patch comes

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trak dies in under 5 minutes on Blue, this is including the time it takes to actually kill him, the raid guilds have it down to a fine science - Logging in for 15 minutes once a day to basically /random for 20k....I guess we will see who is right, i predict extreme farm fest mode.

UDB is a little more complicated than doing a normal rush trak engage. Adding in the need to do the turn in + kill the aggro UDB to spawn trak.

If there is as much competition for UDB/fake as some are prophesying, then cut the values dramatically, if you have a 33-50% success rate on turn-in FTE with 1-2 more guilds vying for UDB.

P.S. - Guts will be the least valued item from this whole thing, it would not surprise me if they went on rot status very quickly and any bard who wants them can just have them.

If guts go rot status and bards that need can freely have them, then what is the issue?

Guilds fighting and training each other over a 20k BP after they each invested a white and red scale for the opportunity? How many bards/guilds have an extra white and red scale they can/will dedicate to a lute?

[dafier]

Personally, leave as is but give guts to turn in bro/girl.

[Zombiehasslehoff]

It should be a roll off for guts /ran 1000 and /ran 1500 if you stuck around to help the night before.

[Erati]

forget what is the consensus with the triggered Trak - does he poison AE?

if he doesnt, he easily could be kited for a lil bit so the 20 min depop timer is not that huge of deal if we respect YLYT ( Your Lute, Your Trak)

[maestrom]

I was under the impression he was essentially a full powered trak.

I was not aware of the 20 minute depop timer though, which makes the whole thing moot.

Question though: On mobs that depop after a certain amount of time. Does engaging reset the timer or merely pause it?

[Erati]

Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was under the impression he was essentially a full powered trak.

I was not aware of the 20 minute depop timer though, which makes the whole thing moot.

Question though: On mobs that depop after a certain amount of time. Does engaging reset the timer or merely pause it?

If hes like the Kromzek Captain ( depops after 15 ish min if unaggro'd ) you can aggro and kite him around forever and the second he becomes unaggro past the time he would have depopped- he will poof

[Daldaen]

That's a Trak depop right?

The depop time on UDB isn't listed. It's possible the UDB sits up in post-turnin-KoS form forever and then once he dies and fake Trak spawns, then that mob has a depop timer.

[Oleris]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a Trak depop right?

The depop time on UDB isn't listed. It's possible the UDB sits up in post-turnin-KoS form forever and then once he dies and fake Trak spawns, then that mob has a depop timer.

I think it's like ragefire, stays up until real trak spawns, then kills it.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Oleris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's like ragefire, stays up until real trak spawns, then kills it.

He's talking about the Enraged bard that you kill to trigger after the turn in. Like the aggro'd human Ragefire.

If you drop aggro on the Enraged bard does it depop? Does aggro human Ragefire?

[Verath]

First come first serve. It's a video game. Chill out people.