NASA's Little Secret

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Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the sun and moon orbit around the north pole? Why is it so bitterly cold there then? Why is it consistently warmer at the equator than any other portion of earth? If the earth is flat and the sun rotates around the north pole, how does this work with a 24 hour day? Again, why would one side of the world be light and the other dark? Does the earth rotate at all or is it completely fixed? What would you suggest as a 2 dimensional flag design that has to depict a 3 dimensional spherical object? The flag does not serve as concrete evidence of anything more than a flag.
Yes NASA and virtually every other government organization lies to people constantly. How does that fact have anything to do with the shape of the earth? And yes I have watched 3 entire videos and part of a 4th. I can't find any more compelling argument in any of them other than "NASA lies about stuff so the earth is flat". There isn't any explanation of how any of the physics of a flat earth would work and how we see that line up with reality. So far all I'm seeing is very weak conjecture, at best.

It's healthy to question information that is spoon fed to you, but I'm with you here, and there are a few other questions I could pose that would challenge the theory as well. I don't think anyone here believes the government and it's affiliates don't lie to the people, but better to not ask questions that actually make sense. The answers we get will become more and more obscure. The UN flag thing really made me laugh, though. The Japanese represent the sun as being red. Is the visible white light of the sun really just an illusion created by the governments of the world as well? Because, you know, graphic artists never manipulate images to fit their desired end and, well, it's on a flag, it must be real. Did we go to the moon, hell if I know for sure, but most likely. Can we go into space and put satellites in orbit, sure as hell we can. I know that because I work with/for the people that do it. And yes, the Earth is probably round along with all the other major bodies in our solar system. If it's not it doesn't matter because the math we use works. Physics > Orbital Mechanics > Conspiracy Theories. The P99 community never fails to amuse.

Disclaimer: Believe nothing I say. I receive your hard earned tax dollars in exchange for my lies and am merely a government shill sent to the P99 forums to propagate the lies of the great oligarchy.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"NASA lies about stuff so the earth is flat".

[Scrooge]

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tbh I watched these videos over the past few weeks. If nothing else it is worth watching to hear what this guy has to say. And unless you're an astronaut who has gone to space and seen with your own eyes that the Earth is round then there isn't much "proof". There is a ton of theories but those aren't proof.

One of the guys films from sea level and aims his camera at a downtown Manhattan 22 miles from his location. Even though there should be a 216~ foot drop due to the curvature of the earth, there isn't.

Not saying I believe either theory but I am realistic enough to realize they are both theories. Then there is the footage of Admiral Byrd talking about his expedition to the South Pole which just makes all of it even more confusing.

Honestly they are definitely worth watching if you have a skeptical outlook. If your just a believer then it is probably not a good idea. (believer being someone who believes things, regardless of proofs)

All it would take to disprove all of it is non stop footage of a camera in space pointing at Earth and doing a full 360 degree turn. That is all it would take but I haven't seen anything like that.

Excellent post, finally someone thinking with an open mind!

What's quite funny here is that 90+% of the people replying to this thread, have already made up their minds about the subject matter, before even looking at any evidence whatsoever.

People are so used to believing outright, whatever the governments and/or the mainstream media and mainstream sciences tell us, that they don't even question any of it, and when there's any possible proof that the opposite may be true - they won't even give a benefit of the doubt.

I'm adding a couple of recently-made videos here; the first one is an interview with visual aid by a skeptic radio host, interviewing Eric Dubay (he runs one of the best YT channels on the subject & has also written a book on it,) and the second talks about gravity and density in relation to the 'Flat Earth.'

The Flat Earth Masonic Matrix Manipulators & gravity is density on flat earth

Enjoy, I look forward to your replies on them and the other videos from pages 3 & 4!

---Posting videos from previous replies since I cannot edit the OP & most people don't even see them---

Originally Posted by Scrooge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Flat Earth Comedy Special

NASA's Fake Ball Earth vs The True Flat Earth (have a look at about 10:23, that was the first time the Apollo space program supposedly filmed Earth from space)

Originally Posted by Scrooge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FLAT EARTH Clues

A 12-part series (10-15min each) for you people hearing about this for the first time; it explains alot of your questions, from the origins of the Earth Sphere idea to modern-era conclusions, as well as explaining flight routes, with visual aid.

Originally Posted by Scrooge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm adding one more video on NASA and their lies, the first 30 seconds will make you laugh! It goes like this: "NASA recently sent a machine to the International Space Station, it converts URINE into DRINKING WATER, it was in development for 10 years!" NASA Fail Compilation

Originally Posted by Scrooge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Watch them videos for their entertainment value if nothing else, I have!

I didn't make this thread to make believers out of you, I made it to see how many of you would automatically dismiss it (like you've been taught to do all your lives by the education system(s) for instance,) or question the mainstream science and this topic that has spawned actual evidence, and compare it to what we think we already know.

I want someone here to debunk these videos, I said it in my earlier posts, and I'm saying it still.

[Rararboker]

Well the guys theory is pretty interesting. If his theory is correct then the moon/sun are just illusions on a giant screen basically. If you watched the videos all those questions are covered because, if he didn't, it would be a huge hole in his whole outlook and make it pretty hard to listen to any of it. Asking the questions here, with a tone of derision no less, just shows you didn't take the time to listen to any of it. Makes you look like you have a close minded outlook, like a catholic.

They even talk about how/why it is covered up. People at NASA actually do believe in what they are doing. They are just so compartmentalized that there is no way for them to ever realize they are basically wasting their time playing with simulators. The main reason for a cover-up is the implications. If we aren't a planet in a nearly infinite universe then we are actually far more important than previously thought. If we are one planet out of billions in the galaxy out of billions of galaxies then we aren't that important. Just the random offshoot of evolution.

Like I said, the video of US Admiral Byrd and his expedition to the south pole is official footage. It is also bizarre and raises more questions than it answers.

Seriously, watch his videos. Just keep a skeptical mind and realize it is a theory. Your not going to be brainwashed by taking the time to watch a few 10min videos.


Edit: Also, more interesting, is the assertion that most of the early attempts at space exploration weren't really for space exploration. They were made to look that way but had nuclear payloads and were fired directly upward at the "glass ceiling" out of panic. The government didn't know what they were dealing with and decided to try and break it in order to get out. Which didn't work and only caused further panic.

[Clark]

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Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the sun and moon orbit around the north pole? Why is it so bitterly cold there then? Why is it consistently warmer at the equator than any other portion of earth? If the earth is flat and the sun rotates around the north pole, how does this work with a 24 hour day? Again, why would one side of the world be light and the other dark? Does the earth rotate at all or is it completely fixed? What would you suggest as a 2 dimensional flag design that has to depict a 3 dimensional spherical object? The flag does not serve as concrete evidence of anything more than a flag. Yes NASA and virtually every other government organization lies to people constantly. How does that fact have anything to do with the shape of the earth? And yes I have watched 3 entire videos and part of a 4th. I can't find any more compelling argument in any of them other than "NASA lies about stuff so the earth is flat". There isn't any explanation of how any of the physics of a flat earth would work and how we see that line up with reality. So far all I'm seeing is very weak conjecture, at best.

I don't know which videos you watched specifically, but most of your questions are answered in the 'Flat Earth Clues' series and in the interviews with Eric Dubay, among those; manipulation of flight paths, the changing seasons, etc..

Those circles on the UN flag actually mean something, they have to do with the rotation of the Sun and Moon in relation to the seasons (they aren't there just for show.) I posted the image comparing the Flat Earth map to the UN Flag as additional information - not the base of all evidence.

The Chinese symbol for Yin-Yang is actually based on the rotation of the Sun and Moon on top of the plane of 'Flat Earth.'

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It's rather pointless for me to keep answering the same questions there are already answers to in the videos I posted in this thread. Although I'd be more than willing to discuss the content, once you've already seen the information and have further questions!

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Scrooge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know which videos you watched specifically, but most of your questions are answered in the 'Flat Earth Clues' series and in the interviews with Eric Dubay, among those; manipulation of flight paths, the changing seasons, etc..

Those circles on the UN flag actually mean something, they have to do with the rotation of the Sun and Moon in relation to the seasons (they aren't there just for show.) I posted the image comparing the Flat Earth map to the UN Flag as additional information - not the base of all evidence.

The Chinese symbol for Yin-Yang is actually based on the rotation of the Sun and Moon on top of the plane of 'Flat Earth.'

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It's rather pointless for me to keep answering the same questions there are already answers to in the videos I posted in this thread. Although I'd be more than willing to discuss the content, once you've already seen the information and have further questions!

Well I mean you started the whole conversation. Maybe you could enlighten us a little more before we spend time watching more videos. Like I said I watched at least 40 mins to an hour of videos including an interview with him and I didn't hear anything convincing in anything so far. I mean pointing out that NASA has lied about a lot of stuff and hid a lot of other stuff does not =flat earth. I don't see any actual evidence of a flat earth. If you don't want to answer peoples honest questions as to why you believe something that seems very absurdly contrary to fact, then dont start the conversation.

[jarshale]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I mean you started the whole conversation. Maybe you could enlighten us a little more before we spend time watching more videos. Like I said I watched at least 40 mins to an hour of videos including an interview with him and I didn't hear anything convincing in anything so far. I mean pointing out that NASA has lied about a lot of stuff and hid a lot of other stuff does not =flat earth. I don't see any actual evidence of a flat earth. If you don't want to answer peoples honest questions as to why you believe something that seems very absurdly contrary to fact, then dont start the conversation.

I wish he would explain something too but he just seems to post links over and over.

[pharmakos]

ain't no one got time for watching 10 hours worth of conspiracy theory videos. if your goal is indeed to convince us, scrooge, it would be to your benefit to give us a detailed cliff's notes version.

[Luminari]

First of all the Earth isn't flat. Second of all, it's completely irrelevant as to whether or not it is flat. Third of all, if you should be paying attention to anything it's the fact that Earth is about to be hit by an asteroid on September 23rd of this year that will wipe out a large portion of the east coast of the US. Just like 9/11 was predicted in countless different movies and tv shows and various forms of media, September 23rd 2015 is predicted in even more sources than 9/11 was. In fact, Sir Isaac Newton decoded a biblical prophecy that points exactly to 9/23/2015. Time to wake up~